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shawn703

(2,707 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:52 PM Dec 2016

KING: Obama and the Clintons still have no earthly idea why the Democratic Party lost...

Over the past few days, the Obamas and the Clintons have made a series of statements on why the Democratic Party lost the presidential election to Donald Trump. The statements, if anything, reveal what happens when politicians are isolated from the American public for so long. While some nuggets of truth could be found there — by and large they all severely miss the mark on how and why Hillary Clinton lost. Instead of looking internally at mistakes they made, they continue to look outward — casting blame on anybody and everybody but themselves.

Both Bill and Hillary have blamed the loss on the FBI. While this is becoming a popular trope among the Democratic establishment, it's a terrible excuse for Hillary's loss. First off, the FBI investigation into the Clinton email mess was admittedly a bit of a public fiasco, but Hillary has openly admitted that she mismanaged the safety and security of her emails. In spite of it all, for months on end, Clinton denied violating any policies or laws — when the investigation revealed that she actually violated them repeatedly. She has to own her primary role in that debacle. Secondly, this is Obama's FBI.

After first putting some of the blame on a mix of media mistreatment and Russian interference, President Obama has finally started to suggest that the Clinton campaign made a mistake by failing to properly campaign outside of America's largest city centers. While this gets closer to owning the problem, even it does not honestly diagnose the real failures of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party.

Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate to run against Donald Trump. Of course the Obama and Clinton families will never say this, but she was. I honestly believe that she may have been the only leading Democrat that Donald Trump could've beaten. Next to him, she was among the least popular politicians to ever run for president. Her weaknesses and challenges counterbalanced those of Trump time after time after time. Trump is a rich, unethical liar with major character problems. To beat him, you run the opposite of that. Clinton, true or not, was not seen as the opposite, but the Democratic equivalent.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-obama-clintons-no-idea-dems-lost-election-article-1.2916282

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KING: Obama and the Clintons still have no earthly idea why the Democratic Party lost... (Original Post) shawn703 Dec 2016 OP
I see Shaun is back to hitting on Hillary--and Obama again. riversedge Dec 2016 #1
Is he related to zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #7
... Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #2
No, Hillary did not violate any policies or laws with her private server. stopbush Dec 2016 #3
bad to the bone zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #9
I think they have an idea BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #4
Lol daily news. However dems lost because not enough dems Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #5
Why post this here? SticksnStones Dec 2016 #6
This is the 2016 Postmortem forum shawn703 Dec 2016 #8
meh zippythepinhead Dec 2016 #10
Hillary WAS NOT the Democratic equivalent of trump. That is the same bullshit false equivalency still_one Dec 2016 #11
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #13
Comey, Voter suppression, Russia... !!!! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #12
Does King have a "earthly idea" of how many half baked journalists make oasis Dec 2016 #14

stopbush

(24,630 posts)
3. No, Hillary did not violate any policies or laws with her private server.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:58 PM
Dec 2016

If you're going to lie about that, then fuck you and everything else you say, Shaun.

Asshole.

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
5. Lol daily news. However dems lost because not enough dems
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:59 PM
Dec 2016

Voted for the dem nom. Now we got trump congrats

still_one

(96,526 posts)
11. Hillary WAS NOT the Democratic equivalent of trump. That is the same bullshit false equivalency
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 02:24 AM
Dec 2016

that gets thrown out.

susan sarandon was notorious for that garbage

It is a variation on the theme that certain folks like to hurl out that Hillary and her supporters are "third way Democrats", but that is not fooling anyone either. That is just another way to characterize Hillary and her supporters as "not being REAL Democrats"

Hillary won the primary, and by a large margin, and it was because more DEMOCRATS voted for her

oasis

(51,703 posts)
14. Does King have a "earthly idea" of how many half baked journalists make
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:51 AM
Dec 2016

a living from cranking out pure bullshit?

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