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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 07:44 PM Dec 2016

Virtually ALL Dems and progressives want the Electoral College abolished

Getting rid of the EC has never been a position held solely by those who supported HRC in the primaries.

Saying this because I'm getting a bit tired of people implying that the left somehow cares less about that than the "center-left".

There simply isn't a disagreement on this point within our side of the spectrum.

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Virtually ALL Dems and progressives want the Electoral College abolished (Original Post) Ken Burch Dec 2016 OP
Well that means it will never happen dhol82 Dec 2016 #1
I don't disagree with you. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #2
The math just doesn't work, at least not now... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #4
The electoral college will be abolished, sooner or later. The majority simply won't stand for WestSeattle2 Dec 2016 #3
Unfortunately, probably way too difficult to change in short-term. Hoyt Dec 2016 #5
Why didn't we try between 2004 & 2014? MichMan Dec 2016 #6
It only takes 17 states to stop an amendment kudzu22 Dec 2016 #7
Very few of our Congress critters are in favor of doing away with it? nt doc03 Dec 2016 #8

dhol82

(9,431 posts)
1. Well that means it will never happen
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 07:48 PM
Dec 2016

Hate to sound bitter but, when have the dems ever stood up and fought tooth and nail for what's right?
That's with all branches of government against us.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
4. The math just doesn't work, at least not now...
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 08:02 PM
Dec 2016

no way will smaller states, especially those in the south and Great Plains, give up the disproportionate power the EC grants them. It only takes 1/3 of them to block any amendment that would dissolve the EC.

I'm afraid we'll need an uprising unlike any we've seen in our lifetime to end this travesty of a political dinosaur. It is the vestigial tail of our Republic, only we can't seem to get it surgically removed...

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
3. The electoral college will be abolished, sooner or later. The majority simply won't stand for
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 07:57 PM
Dec 2016

popular vote losers to be repeatedly installed in the White House. The only question really is if abolishing the EC will require rioting in the streets and civil unrest, or will Congress take the initiative to initiate amending the constitution without civil strife.

MichMan

(13,085 posts)
6. Why didn't we try between 2004 & 2014?
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 08:48 PM
Dec 2016

The perception is that we are only opposed to the EC because it worked against us this time. We would have had a lot better argument had we been pressing for abolition as a matter of principle when it didn't affect the winner. That may however have fallen on deaf ears because it would have been tough convincing some that it was an issue.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
7. It only takes 17 states to stop an amendment
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 08:52 PM
Dec 2016

Here are 24 I'm pretty sure would never go for it: AK, MT, ID, UT, WY, ND, SD, NE, KS, AZ, TX, OK, NE, AR, LA, MS, AL, GA, NC, SC, WV, KY, TN, IN.

So, you'd have to persuade 8 of those AND hang on to all the small blue states like CT, VT, ME, HI, MN, NM, RI, DE and purple ones like IA, WI, NV that currently enjoy their "disproportionate" representation.

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