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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 09:18 PM Dec 2016

IMO, no female would have been elected, all the email, FBI, Putin were just excuses.

Trump supporters would repeal the female vote if they get a chance.

The glass ceiling will need to have an election with female candidates only to break it.

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IMO, no female would have been elected, all the email, FBI, Putin were just excuses. (Original Post) CK_John Dec 2016 OP
Considering that Republicans lie and make up all sorts of shit rurallib Dec 2016 #1
I believe it is deeper than that, I had one 60+ told me they don't CK_John Dec 2016 #3
Considering she won the popular vote by such a margin, I can't agree. WheelWalker Dec 2016 #2
Exactly the opposite. earthside Dec 2016 #4
No the polls didn't show it from the moment she announced Buzz cook Dec 2016 #5
There's no doubt Clinton hate is strong, and has been for decades. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #6
So she was over qualified and Palin was under qualified, and a jerk like Perry ends CK_John Dec 2016 #7
No way she would have won if not for the two year witch hunt in Congress and on Fox news, doc03 Dec 2016 #8
no doubt a lot of men went into the voting booth and could not vote for a woman for POTUS, TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #9
Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million.other countries have female presidents so can't be that. Sunlei Dec 2016 #10
You are about a Century behind the rest of us. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2016 #11
Well for having only gotten the vote in 1920 and 60% of eligible voter didn't vote, 2020 might CK_John Dec 2016 #12
Yeah, right. Coyotl Dec 2016 #13
No, she won, her campaign team f***ed this up... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #14
Peter theil certainly thinks we were better off before women could vote La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #15
Ann Coulter: Women Should Not Have The Right To Vote, But They Can Still Write Books CK_John Dec 2016 #16

rurallib

(63,178 posts)
1. Considering that Republicans lie and make up all sorts of shit
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 09:34 PM
Dec 2016

it would have been hard for any Dem or any person unwilling to crawl in the pig shit with them to compete.

It will continue to be so until american voters realize they are being played for patsies, so don't hold your breath.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
3. I believe it is deeper than that, I had one 60+ told me they don't
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 10:11 PM
Dec 2016

fly with female pilots either.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
4. Exactly the opposite.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 10:23 PM
Dec 2016

A Democratic strong economic populist woman would have won Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and probably even Florida.

Hillary Clinton carried 30 years of political baggage with her ... fairly or not, is was there. The polls showed it from the moment she announced: people didn't trust her and they didn't like her.

I strongly believe that an Elizabeth Warren or Amy Klobachar or Patty Murray with a strong message would have defeated any Republican nominee.

Buzz cook

(2,583 posts)
5. No the polls didn't show it from the moment she announced
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 10:33 PM
Dec 2016

As the media and other factors worked on the election, Clinton's poll numbers dropped. But after the convention her poll numbers bounced.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. There's no doubt Clinton hate is strong, and has been for decades.
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 10:44 PM
Dec 2016

A different candidate with the exact same message and strategy would have won.

Clinton's campaign message was much more populist than Trump's, in spite of what the media would have us believe. And she won among those for whom the economy was the top issue. She won among the working class. If a portion of white working class voters have much different expectations or priorities than the working class as a whole, ask yourself why that might be.

Also, the notion that Trump of all people is a populist is batshit crazy. Anyone who believes that Trump is a populist isn't going to be reached by the Democratic Party.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
7. So she was over qualified and Palin was under qualified, and a jerk like Perry ends
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 11:05 PM
Dec 2016

up as Sec of (Atomic) Energy.

doc03

(36,640 posts)
8. No way she would have won if not for the two year witch hunt in Congress and on Fox news,
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 12:54 AM
Dec 2016

the Comey letter and Russian interference.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
9. no doubt a lot of men went into the voting booth and could not vote for a woman for POTUS,
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 03:40 AM
Dec 2016

and sadly, a whole lot o f women probably did the same thing. but i think hillary did break some barriers, and it will be easier for the next woman.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million.other countries have female presidents so can't be that.
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 03:45 AM
Dec 2016

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
12. Well for having only gotten the vote in 1920 and 60% of eligible voter didn't vote, 2020 might
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 09:27 AM
Dec 2016

be the charm year.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
14. No, she won, her campaign team f***ed this up...
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 09:44 AM
Dec 2016

Plenty of votes, just in the wrong states. At some point we're going to have to hold Podesta & Robby Mook accountable. Or we can ignore the fact that they shit the bed and let them snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again in 4 years...

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
16. Ann Coulter: Women Should Not Have The Right To Vote, But They Can Still Write Books
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 06:55 PM
Dec 2016

This is strong among hate radio and the DNC better start asking this question and design a program to fight it.

Head in the sand is not a winning position.

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