The most common words in @HillaryClintons speeches, in one chart

[riversedge]

Robert #Resist Sandy ‏@frodofied 7h7 hours ago

The most common words in @HillaryClinton’s speeches, in one chart http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13972394/most-common-words-hillary-clinton-speech?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter … via @voxdotcom


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http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/16/13972394/most-common-words-hillary-clinton-speech


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[JHan]

1. Great piece thanks...especially this part:

"Yeah. She talked about jobs, workers, and the economy — more than anything else. They were the central focus of her public speeches.

You can critique how she talked about jobs, workers, and the economy. Maybe she should have used different words, or framed things differently. Maybe, despite running on an agenda of worker-friendly policies, she should have chosen a clearer, simpler economic theme and hit it more often.

You can critique where she talked about jobs, workers, and the economy. Clearly, in retrospect, she should have spent more time and resources in those upper Midwestern swing states.

But you cannot say she didn’t talk about jobs, workers, and the economy. She talked about them all the time, more than anything else."

[riversedge]

2. the media will ignore this research also.

[PatSeg]

10. The media focused mostly

on her criticisms of Trump and played those clips over and over again. Now they say she didn't talk about jobs and the economy.

[bettyellen]

15. Just as the media focused on sanders "they're all corrupt" and "Wall Street" crap

[BREMPRO]

11. Two problems, she may have "talked about" jobs

But the legacy of Clinton name ties to NAFTA was an achor dragging her message down (what you do/did carries more weight than way you say, especially when your trustiwortiness rating is low); and 2 she didn't get that message to enough of and the right people that might have affected the outcome. Her campaigns neglect of the rust belt was a campaign mistake. Ask bill, Van and Michael Moore. They knew.

[JHan]

13. the Clinton Campaign's ( Particularly Mook) hubris was a problem and Bill's advice was ignored...

but it was a combination of things. Its' reassuring to see data coming out showing that voters who prioritized the economy preferred Clinton, and voters who prioritized terrorism and immigration veered towards Trump.

[duffyduff]

30. Let's rewrite history, shall we?

When the Sanders and Moore crowd are shown the truth, they try to change the focus.

BC did not negotiate NAFTA. It was a big issue in the 1992 campaign and was a major factor in the rise of Ross Perot.

The fact is the economy meme pushed by the Sanders/Moore crowd has been debunked as a pack of lies. It was racism and sexism that was behind the Trump vote.

[BREMPRO]

31. And you are spinning history

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Sure NAFTA was not a Clinton creation, but after ghwbush and repuplicans created and initiated it, he took up the agreement after being elected in 92 and negotiated stronger labor and environmental provisions. Clinton fully supported it and signed it into law in Dec93 (despite union opposition) stating that "NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

The two factors that were shown by exit polling to be slightly more important than economy to rust belt voters who voted for Trump, immigration and terrorism fears, are intertwined with the 30 year legacy of job loss and factory closings. The impression true or not that immigrants were depressing wages and taking jobs, and the terrorism fears as an excuse for blocking immigrants to this county are not inconsistent with the "economy meme" that is more truthful and you are saying has been debunked.

Racism was a factor but many Trump voters voted for Obama in 08 and 12, then Trump 2016?? I believe the racism was partly a campaign mistep overplaying the multicultural, multiethnic, religion rainbow tent that many rural white socially conservative voters felt excluded. Sexism I would agree was also but I don't think as much as been asserted here.

I suggest listing to Van Jones new show- the messy truth- the interviews with rust belt families are revealing and more ti the heart of truthful than 30,000ft statistical analysis.

[duffyduff]

29. Michael Moore needs to see that.

He has been peddling the jobs bullshit since the election.

Of course, he is a man. Can't point out the obvious reason these guys shot themselves in the ass voting for Trump.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

3. No matter how much data there is that she did

Prioritize economy, you'll never get some here to stop blaming this on 'identity politics '

[JHan]

4. I also blame some Democratic politicians for helping spread the myth..

the reason they're doing it is for political mileage, to distinguish themselves, but it hurts the party overall.

[Fast Walker 52]

6. yes, as usual, Dems could really benefit from a unified approach without infighting

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. Absolutely

[hellofromreddit]

7. I wrote a whole post about how her actual message got drowned out by negative campaigning

Nobody wanted to hear it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512653823

[Fast Walker 52]

5. JOBS!!!

Stupid fucking media

[Madam45for2923]

8. Here are the tables showing what she spoke about the most:

[Madam45for2923]

9. What Americans heard:

[Mc Mike]

32. Thanks for your post 8. This post 9 word cloud polling info is key. Rec. nt.

[Takket]

12. the problem with hillary's message was....

she was talking real world solutions while trump was promising good paying middle class jobs in the unicorn stables, building the Death Star, mining kryptonite, and other such wild fantasies.

How do you reason with people that can't be reasoned with? That is the great challenge facing this entire nation for the future if we survive the next 4 years.

[BREMPRO]

18. right, i remember the comparison when Trump said he would bring coal jobs back an "restore" America

greatness (back to the 50's/ magic thinking) and Clinton (correctly an realistically) told them those jobs would not likely be coming back due to geopolitical and economic forces (natural gas is cheaper) etc.. The problem was they believed Trump because they wanted to believe it and someone was actually saying it and coming to their communities to offer help, rather than the same old refrain for 30 years while watching the factories close, job not coming back, just retrain, get more "liberal" education, move to where the jobs are etc..

you can't neglect the racial element that was clearly a factor in these predominantly white rural communities that swung the election to Rumpface, but the economic message of rainbows and unicorns over harsh reality was more appealing if unrealistic. Even Trumps' messages to minority communities ("what do you have to lose&quot might have ironically resonated with rust belters.

[Garrett78]

23. Your question answers itself, of course. Some have created an alternate reality.

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Actually, we see that to some extent here at DU, as well. During the primary, I read a lot of reality-denying posts. And since the election, it's been all the rage to suggest that Clinton lost due to economic messaging, even though all the evidence points in a different direction.

[Eric J in MN]

14. Her speeches had enough economics. Her TV ads didn't. NT

NT

[BREMPRO]

19. her ads were one dimensional and depressing

Trump bad, children are listening.. many people already knew that and didn't care enough. she had no positive message of why one should vote for her except to stop Trump.

[NCTraveler]

21. You are being highly dishonest here.

The angle you are coming from has no basis in truth.

[BREMPRO]

26. i can only speak from my own personal experience

and what i saw here in Maine was exclusively negative anti-trump ads, showing him mocking the handicapped reporter, saying curse words bleeped out, our children are watching etc.. there were a few of them but the played over and over, like a broken record and I kept thinking to myself, OK they get it, he's an asshole, but there was no pivot or positive message or anything new from Clinton here, like why one should vote for her. It was not an inspirational ad campaign. just anti-Trump. Now if that's being dishonest we will have to go back to the drawing board and redefine the word.

[Lucinda]

17. KNR

[NCTraveler]

20. It's extremely clear what those yelling about her ignoring jobs are attempting to do. Nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. Even though they'll lie and say what they want is both

Economic and social justice to be represented equally. Reality is economic justice always has been represented far more, hence what they want is any focus on social justice to be removed.

[Garrett78]

25. It's clear what folks like Tim Ryan are trying to do. I'm not so sure about others.

I think some are genuinely ignorant (about how much Clinton focused on economics, about how she won among those for whom the economy was a top priority, etc.), while others have probably succumbed to the right wing narrative about so-called "identity politics," which the GOP engages in like nobody's business.

[JI7]

24. she DID win the votes of those who voted bssed on economic issues

I think people just don't want to face the real reason trump got most of the votes he did .

[La Lioness Priyanka]

28. Admitting that many of the people who voted for him are

Rabid racists or misogynists is really hard for some people

[oasis]

27. K and R