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Well it is gonna be President Trump (Original Post) Botany Dec 2016 OP
So I take it that it was a non-event? This is just unbelievable... NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #1
It's not unbelievable. LisaM Dec 2016 #3
I must say, right or wrong, as much as I respect Obama, I just had to turn it off. pangaia Dec 2016 #2
What happened? I was at the post office meadowlark5 Dec 2016 #4
thats what he said. russians meddled but it had no outcome effect. ugh nt msongs Dec 2016 #6
He said they meddled and manipulated the press as well as acted to undermine bettyellen Dec 2016 #18
He stated that Russia did not affect any of the actual voting mechanism. He was affirming the 24601 Dec 2016 #8
I can't imagine Sam Irvin, Senate Chair of the Watergate Committee talking like this about Nixon. jalan48 Dec 2016 #5
What in the Christ is going on in this country??!! meadowlark5 Dec 2016 #7
Bernie talked about Establishment Politics when he ran and took a lot of shit for it. jalan48 Dec 2016 #9
No, just not all of us believe in insipid conspiracy theories that go against all the evidence mythology Dec 2016 #15
I weep for our children. libtodeath Dec 2016 #10
It will be interesting to see how history views this. unitedwethrive Dec 2016 #11
If we do have a history it will be like this: Botany Dec 2016 #14
By doing what? Claim it was rigged, and look like sour grapes to the vast dionysus Dec 2016 #12
It seems to me, it's as if he wants to get as far away as fast as he can from the whitehouse. nt Snotcicles Dec 2016 #13
How was he supposed to save it? What was expected of him to do? nt jmg257 Dec 2016 #16
In all fairness I think he put more blame where it belongs, with the media inwiththenew Dec 2016 #17
Of course it's gonna be President Trump. Anyone with a brain knew that the minute the networks Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #19
He, like the rest of the Democratic Party, knows the GOP is going to screw it up. duffyduff Dec 2016 #20

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
4. What happened? I was at the post office
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:06 PM
Dec 2016

Please don't tell me he said Russia had nothing to do with Trump's win.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. He said they meddled and manipulated the press as well as acted to undermine
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:44 PM
Dec 2016

Many agencies, people and institutions public and private that we depend on. And that we is reaponoding to it- even though he cannot give details of how.

24601

(4,013 posts)
8. He stated that Russia did not affect any of the actual voting mechanism. He was affirming the
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:22 PM
Dec 2016

integrity of the vote - meaning that the result will stand.

That is separate from their efforts to influence voters. In this regard, our response would be at a time & place of our choosing and that it wouldn't be apparent to everyone. The implication is that it would be covert action but of a nature that is obvious to Russia so that they get the message.

jalan48

(14,393 posts)
5. I can't imagine Sam Irvin, Senate Chair of the Watergate Committee talking like this about Nixon.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:07 PM
Dec 2016

WTF has happened to our Party?

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
7. What in the Christ is going on in this country??!!
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:21 PM
Dec 2016

I don't get it. Are dems that lily livered and spineless to not pursue this? Does Obama and the dems know something we don't know so it's not necessary to?

What in the hell is going on? The current president is covering for this cheating jerk.

jalan48

(14,393 posts)
9. Bernie talked about Establishment Politics when he ran and took a lot of shit for it.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:23 PM
Dec 2016

Are people waking up yet?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. No, just not all of us believe in insipid conspiracy theories that go against all the evidence
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:45 PM
Dec 2016

There is no fucking evidence that Russia hacked the actual voting. None. Zero. Zilch. And Clinton was leading the race right up until the second email announcement from Comey that had nothing to do with the Russian hacks on the DNC. She lost because she used an email server and it played into her existing public perception that she plays fast and loose with the rules.

It's embarrassing that people here keep trying to claim Russia hacked the election. Obama is telling you that your conspiracy theory is nonsense, but people are so eager to cling to it, that they won't look at the available evidence impartially and then decide.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney

unitedwethrive

(2,008 posts)
11. It will be interesting to see how history views this.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:32 PM
Dec 2016

Personally, I think Obama just ruined whatever shreds remained of his legacy. It makes me sad that we don't have leaders who will really stand up for our side.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
12. By doing what? Claim it was rigged, and look like sour grapes to the vast
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:35 PM
Dec 2016

majority of the country?

Theres nothing in his power he could do to stop this.

inwiththenew

(986 posts)
17. In all fairness I think he put more blame where it belongs, with the media
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:40 PM
Dec 2016

Yes, the Russians hacked and released but it wasn't Russia who reported every little thing no matter how trivial as if it was a major smoking gun all day everyday. The wall to wall coverage about the hacks was far more damaging than anything in them.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
19. Of course it's gonna be President Trump. Anyone with a brain knew that the minute the networks
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:01 PM
Dec 2016

called it on Nov. 8.

The electoral college isn't going to change it, Jill Stein isn't going to change it, Obama isn't going to overrule the election or do anything else.

Start working on the midterms, and get used to the fact that he's the President.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
20. He, like the rest of the Democratic Party, knows the GOP is going to screw it up.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:11 PM
Dec 2016

It is all strategies for the midterms and so forth.

THAT is what we need to do.

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