2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAmericans must demand that the Electoral College be given access to the Intelligence Reports
Otherwise, they are casting their Electoral ballots from within a vast cloud of ignorance pumped up Republican-Russian collusion against America and democracy.
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BSdetect
(9,047 posts)So much more is required.
The DP is, as usual, weak.
Why not do what the GOP would do? Call it. Take action.
Drumph was colluding with them. He knew they were hacking.
onenote
(44,515 posts)to a bunch of Republican political hacks?
mopinko
(71,758 posts)they will redact it enough to protect sources and methods.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)I'm pretty sure the people who actually run the country behind the scenes will keep little adolf sniffler from running us completely into the ground or starting a nuclear war.
Will big money continue to fuck over the ever shrinking middle class? More misadventure in the middle east taking loves senselessly? Ignoring global warming?
Safe to say yes on all of that, sadly, but all of that would have continued, but on a vastly smaller scale, under a dem president.
Hillary would have been 1000% bettwr than trump, but america will still be standing when this bozo leaves office...
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)mopinko
(71,758 posts)this will echo in our country the way jfk's assassination still does.
a russian puppet in the white house is ok w you then? got it.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)not the same as being "okay" with anything. I kust have a little faith in our resiliency as a country.
You're a DU old timer like me, if you recall, the same words were spoken when * was selected and then again when he was reselected... we went on the elect Obama.
PS. Sweet urban garden.
but i still think we are much the worse off for bushie's 8 years. could they have stymied obama the way the did w/o those 8 years? i wonder.
and how much damage have they done to our actual democracy w their voter suppression and gerrymandering? that will take a couple generations to repair, should we summon the backbone to repair it.
i agree we will be standing, but i dont think our standing in the world will ever be the same.
and thx. my garden keeps me optimistic.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Is i think we'll survive more or less intact, as ugly as it will be.
Im not looking forward to.
Watch, 4 (hopeully not 8) years feom now we'll still be on DU bre a king down the asshats term...
Qutzupalotl
(15,136 posts)We don't need to reveal sources or methods, just conclusions. It would have to be presented in stark terms reflecting the seriousness of the situation.
I truly believe the fate of the country as we know it is at stake. Next year we are scheduled to turn into a fascist kleptocracy.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(10,719 posts)Add your voice to the throngs of Americans demanding that the electors vote not vote for trump.
http://asktheelectors.org
Pass this to as many people as you can.
Time to revolt is now!!
annabanana
(52,791 posts)I filled out the information and it wasn't registered when I clicked the submit function.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)You have to wonder if the Republican-Russian cabal is trying to hack this site...?
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Bear Creek
(883 posts)They just want their party to win
N_E_1 for Tennis
(10,719 posts)That's how trump got the votes.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)How Trump won. They need to call the entire election and re do without the machines. The hack went farther than just the president race.
roamer65
(37,142 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,882 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)They know what they need to know.
Orangepeel
(13,969 posts)They are literally people chosen by the political parties to reward loyalty to those parties. Donald Trump could feed a live baby to Vladimir Putin on live TV and at least 90% of republican electors would still vote for him.