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pbmus

(12,439 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:26 PM Dec 2016

Why Havent Conservative Thinkers Denounced Trump?

Before the election, I wrote a piece describing why, despite his radical deviation from conservative orthodoxy on many policy issues, Donald Trump’s rise and triumph as a candidate of the right bore an uncanny sort of logic. The Tea Party movement, whose nominal candidate in the Republican primaries had been the upright Christian constitutionalist Ted Cruz, smoothly transferred its support to Trump, the sybaritic populist who said that Cruz’s dad was linked to John F. Kennedy’s killer, and this, somehow, seemed about right. Why not? What’s the difference? This fit with the scheme laid out in Corey Robin’s book “The Reactionary Mind”: the substance of conservative doctrine is secondary to a deeper, perennial force in conservative politics, which is the spirit of reaction itself.

But Robin’s book begins with Edmund Burke and conservative philosophy. Reaction, Robin argues, is typically high theory as much as demotic practice. The signal reactionaries are writers and intellectuals, but in Trump’s case the conservative intelligentsia strayed from the script. Yes, conservative pundits were eager to claim the Tea Party as their own, despite the statist heresies of its members and the populist urges it expressed, but most of those pundits opposed Trump, sometimes bitterly, even after he won the Republican nomination.

It’s important to note how remarkable this is: conservative pundits publicly declining to support the Presidential nominee of the Republican Party. They are a notably partisan bunch, partly by the nature of their political enterprise, and partly because the American electoral system does a decent job of meeting their ideological wants—as it doesn’t for progressive intellectuals, who can often be seen at election time casting wistful glances to the left horizon. But it’s even more remarkable still, because this Republican was running against a Clinton. Though some conservatives still define themselves as Reaganite, the conservative movement as it functions today was formed not in the eighties of Ronald Reagan but in the nineties of Bill Clinton—the nineties, that is, of Whitewater, the Gingrich revolution, the Fox News Channel (founded in 1996), the Starr Report, and the Clinton impeachment.

Why Haven’t Conservative Thinkers Denounced Trump?

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/why-havent-conservative-thinkers-denounced-trump

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Because conservatives stick together no matter how much shit smell is in the room...

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Why Havent Conservative Thinkers Denounced Trump? (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
Because they are not CONSERVATIVE. elleng Dec 2016 #1
Not radicals, reactionaries TXCritter Dec 2016 #7
Conservative thinkers, two words that do not belong together. onecaliberal Dec 2016 #2
+1 TXCritter Dec 2016 #8
They were always about putting Oligarchs in power and modeling things after Authoritarian regimes. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #3
Several have. stevenleser Dec 2016 #4
Conservative..........."thinkers," ...did you say? pangaia Dec 2016 #5
Look at his appointees-they're all right wing dogmatists geek tragedy Dec 2016 #6
...because there are no conservative thinkers. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #9
Well... there is always Glen Beck, lol. phleshdef Dec 2016 #10
They have. former9thward Dec 2016 #11
Power budkin Dec 2016 #12
they are all dead JI7 Dec 2016 #13
Conservative Thinker is an oxymoron. FSogol Dec 2016 #14
GOP "thinkers" logic:. Power over Party over Country nt BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #15

elleng

(136,059 posts)
1. Because they are not CONSERVATIVE.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:31 PM
Dec 2016

REAL conservatives disappeared from the U.S. scene years ago. Current repugs are and have been RADICALs.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. They were always about putting Oligarchs in power and modeling things after Authoritarian regimes.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:39 PM
Dec 2016

The mask just fell away and FOX News hides it from about 40% of our population.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
11. They have.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 12:51 AM
Dec 2016

George Will says Trump is a socialist.

George Will: Trump Involvement In Carrier Deal "Socialism"

GEORGE WILL: I entirely agree. So far Donald Trump's style is personal, not to say visceral. And ad hoc. And what that adds up to is a kind of use of presidential power absolutely unconstrained by law and statute and all those other niceties.

The problem is when you have, in the Carrier case, political power used to bring pressure upon a privately owned institution that has fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder value and drive them off with political pressure with making economic decisions about economic assets, you are, in effect, at the end of the day, getting the federal government involved in capital allocation. There is a name for that, it's called socialism.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/12/07/george_will_trump_involvement_in_carrier_deal_socialism.html

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