Re: the Democratic Party and organized labor...

[YoungDemCA]

It used to be that the Democratic Party's (electoral/political) fortunes were heavily dependent on labor unions. Nowadays it's the other way around. This reversal is entirely fucked up and a major part of the problem that Democrats face these days. Because Wall Street may be able to deliver more money than labor (with plenty of disgusting strings attached, of course) but they'll never be able to deliver votes - least of all in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, etc.

My $0.02, YMMV.

[duffyduff]

1. Because Nixon used racist code to get the hard hats.

We haven't had these guys in fifty years, and the Civil Rights Act guaranteed we would not have them back.

I am referring to blue collar-types. There are many different labor unions that are still reliably Democratic.

The problem is unions have been heavily weakened over the decades thanks to Ronald Reagan's war on the social contract.

The time to have been angry was the 1980s. These Trump dudes are 35 years too late to the party.

Good riddance, I say. They keep voting the wrong way.

There is no helping them.

[beachbum bob]

2. The sad fact is trump and conservatives top task is to destroy labor...

organized or not....and those who voted for trump believing jobs and good pay coming back to America are the biggest fools....and why 2018 will bode well for democrats....

[guillaumeb]

3. 2018 "boding well" for Democrats assumes a level of voter awareness not demonstrated in 2016.

And it assumes that the Democratic Party can frame a convincing and clear message.

[Orsino]

4. ...and that Dems aren't five times louder on labor issues. n/t

[Exilednight]

5. 2018 will not change anything. Washington is a

quagmire with no one manning the rutter.

This board is proof that the DNC has yet to get organized and point us in the right direction. Instead it is hold fast on losing with the same leadership.

[beachbum bob]

6. Not true....

[Exilednight]

7. Then you're not paying attention.

There are no new fresh faces in leadership.

[Ace Rothstein]

9. The Senate map is bad in 2018.

Hopefully we can reverse some governorships and statehouses that year while shrinking the margin in the House.

[hollowdweller]

8. Union members vote their guns more than their jobs these days.

Neither party has really gone to bat for them so they vote on other issues.

In the last 30 years union members may have done better than non union, but they have faced a steady stream of pay and benefit cuts, so it's like neither side is really pushing for them.

Sort of like gov't workers. Dems do not treat public employees any better than the GOP so they do not turn out in a block and vote for the dems.

I've always thought it interesting how we worship anybody who is in the military, but other public workers have to take cheap shots all the time.