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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:56 PM Dec 2016

Nothing about Trump's message is even remotely in sync with what Germany is doing in order to thrive

There's a narrative that really needs to be nipped in the bud.

Germany thrives on high tech jobs, limiting wage disparity, affordable college, affordable child care, apprenticeship programs, a more progressive income tax structure than the US has, more parental leave than the US has, etc. Germany doesn't thrive on bringing back or preventing the departure of low-skilled manufacturing jobs, or lowering the taxes of the wealthiest, or lowering wages of workers.

US manufacturing is at an all-time high, but automation means far fewer people are needed. And wages have been stagnant, while the wealthiest continue to make a killing. Low-skilled jobs have been outsourced just as Germany has done. And those jobs aren't coming back. Germans would tell you the same thing.

Nothing about Trump's message is even remotely in sync with what Germany is doing in order to thrive. Quite the opposite in fact. So, please stop speaking of that which you know nothing about. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

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Nothing about Trump's message is even remotely in sync with what Germany is doing in order to thrive (Original Post) Garrett78 Dec 2016 OP
maybe they mean the germany of some decades back JI7 Dec 2016 #1
The Trump campaign was certainly reminiscent of 1930s Germany. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #2
Seriously, though... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #3
When I see Germany DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #4
one huge difference is germany faces it's ugly past JI7 Dec 2016 #5
we are making a deep dive back into tinkle down. + as an artist who has suffered under GWB SHITTY pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #6

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. Seriously, though...
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:50 PM
Dec 2016

The US needs to invest in new high-tech "green" industries. Because things like infrastructure development can no longer be considered a jobs program like it was in the New Deal days. Road work that once required hundreds can now be done by 1 person with a big piece of equipment.

New high tech green industry development, more progressive taxation, limiting wage disparity, addressing (not denying) anthropogenic global warming, universal health insurance, affordable college, alternatives to college and other German-esque proposals run completely counter to what Trump proposes but are fairly in sync with what Clinton and other Dems propose. Suggesting that Germany's ability to thrive somehow relates to what Trump campaigned on and why he did better than expected in the Rust Belt is both ironic and laughable. Pointing to Germany, in other words, makes Clinton's point. It most certainly doesn't make Trump's point.

Lastly, there's probably more resistance to re-locating (following re-training) in the US than there is in Germany due to differences in size, diversity, etc.

People may want simple answers to complex problems, and I have no doubt that simple answers appeal to the likes of those who vote for the likes of Trump. But lying and dumbing down the population is anti-democratic.

DonCoquixote

(13,712 posts)
4. When I see Germany
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:52 PM
Dec 2016

It gives me hope, because even a nation that was once infamous can get it's act together, so there may be hope for us yet.

pansypoo53219

(21,726 posts)
6. we are making a deep dive back into tinkle down. + as an artist who has suffered under GWB SHITTY
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:13 PM
Dec 2016

ekonomiks after 8 years of cllinton. it was only after obama killed MOST of georgee's tax cuts did i sell a LITTLE BETTER. never have i had to work so hard. i expect sales to reek the next for years AGAIN.

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