2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLawsuit filed to force Florida recount
Wow and just in the nick of time according to this tweet:
Andrea Chalupa @AndreaChalupa 22h22 hours ago
Great news! With 10 minutes to spare before midnight deadline, a 300 page petition for a recount filed in Florida. #AuditTheVote #RecountFL
Yay! (I know, don't get too optimistic..)
http://www.palmerreport.com/news/lawsuit-officially-filed-to-force-florida-recount/339/
Yesterday a federally registered nonprofit election entity launched a fundraiser to cover the court costs of a lawsuit it intended to file in the name of forcing a statewide recount in the narrowly decided state of Florida. The attorney fees were fully crowdfunded within a matter of hours. And today the attorney in question announced that he has officially filed the lawsuit in question, creating at least some possibility that a Florida recount may happen.
Florida state law prohibits any candidate from requesting a recount, meaning that third party candidate Jill Stein cannot force a recount in the state even if she pays for the costs, as shes doing in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. But this lawsuit is aimed at getting a judge to order a Florida recount, whether republican state officials want to do it or not.
Clint Curtis, the Florida attorney who has been hired to lead the legal charge in court, announced today via his official Facebook page that the election complaint is now indeed underway in the legal arena.
Donald Trump was officially named the winner in Florida, but by a razor thin margin, and only after Hillary Clinton had appeared to bank enough of an early vote lead in the state that it would have been all but mathematically insurmountable for Trump to have come back and won. If the courts do rule that a Florida recount must take place, and if the recount reveals that Clinton did get the most votes in the state, those electoral votes would be reassigned to clinton. Similar scenarios are playing out in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, with the fate of the election hanging in the balance.
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flamingdem
(39,917 posts)If you live in Florida let me know and I'll send you info to help
MADem
(135,425 posts)flamingdem
(39,917 posts)More details on Florida:
I just got off the phone with Clint Curtis the atty who filed the motion for a recount last night in Tallahassee. It was a 549 page brief that included 3 plaintiffs. The court has 10 days to respond. The goal is to get a recount approved before the electors are allowed to vote on Dec 19th. In Florida there are basically 4 different grounds for a recount. The brief covers most, if not all of them. There would need to be bribery of an official, misconduct complaints like being turned away at the polls illegitimately, machine malfunction, evidence of hacking, etc... that could potentially effect the outcome of the race. We lost in Florida by 100,000 votes. If you are willing to help in this amazing endeavor, please join my group warriors for a better world, I have a project for as many of you as I can find to help.
Aimee in OKC
(160 posts)It would be great if he can get this going.
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Perhaps citizens could assist in a very different sort of vote counting. Florida uses a mix of paper ballots & DRE Touchscreens. The machines capture anonymous images of ballots as they are counted.
Get to the state map: https://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/#year/2016/state/12
1. Scroll & click in turn on each machine to explore capabilities and security concerns.
2. Click on a county to get quick info on it alone.
3. To see a list of the machines by county, scroll down to the bottom left, select Florida & "SEARCH".
Determine what you want to investigate, get a notarized FOIA request for the anonymous images to the election officials. Take along a number of brand-new, in-their-wrappers flash drives to download the files, in case the FOIA attempt succeeds.
The effort is very likely to be denied, but unless it's tried, who knows what might've happened?
Baitball Blogger
(48,041 posts)Here we go again. LOL! Some people are going to lose their shit!
flamingdem
(39,917 posts)I can't smell victory but I love the fire under their collective rear ends while they try to remember where they dumped the bags of ballots!
Baitball Blogger
(48,041 posts)murielm99
(31,436 posts)smell the fire under their rear ends. Burning right-wing ass is good!
flamingdem
(39,917 posts)Well for the moment we can dream and dream hard, clicking shoes together over here!
KewlKat
(5,650 posts)but if you have a dollar to spare, you might throw it in this pot.
They currently have $63,000 but I'm sure they'll need more for legal fees.
https://protectourelections.nationbuilder.com/florida_recount
Here is a link to the "Complaint" if you care to read it.
http://www.protectourelections.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Complaint.pdf
flamingdem
(39,917 posts)?
JudyM
(29,517 posts)Nwgirl503
(406 posts)KewlKat
(5,650 posts)Ligyron
(7,893 posts)I'm in FL and I'll look up your group tomorrow!
Ellipsis
(9,183 posts)flamingdem
(39,917 posts)Can't recall his involvement
Ellipsis
(9,183 posts)"Curtis is a computer programmer who worked for Yang Enterprises in Oviedo, Florida until February 2001. He made a series of allegations about his former employer and about Republican Congressman Tom Feeney, including an allegation that in 2000, Feeney and Yang Enterprises requested Curtis's assistance in a scheme to steal votes by inserting fraudulent code into touch screen voting systems. In particular, he alleged that at the behest of Feeney, in September 2000, he was asked to write a program for a touchscreen voting machine that would make it possible to change the results of an election undetectably. This technology, Curtis explained, could also be used in any electronic tabulation machine or scanner. Curtis assumed initially that this effort was aimed at detecting Democratic fraud, but later learned that it was intended to benefit the Republican Party."
Clint Curtis Investigator's "Suicide" case reopened by Georgia Police!
http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewstory.php?storyid=283
flamingdem
(39,917 posts)Curtis seems to be the man for the job! I'll keep reading up on this one.
JudyM
(29,517 posts)flamingdem
(39,917 posts)Not sure how well they're doing with all of that, but great to learn he's an old pro!!
jmg257
(11,996 posts)ancianita
(38,525 posts)flamingdem
(39,917 posts)Since several other electors are refusing to vote Trump
triron
(22,240 posts)Raster
(20,999 posts)Recount Florida... Recount Florida... Recount Florida... Recount Florida...
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flamingdem
(39,917 posts)If nothing else another battle royale in FLA probably meansthere won't be enough certified electors to put Agent Orange over on the 19th...
flamingdem
(39,917 posts)just imagine the celebration.. too soon to have that thought but woo hoo!
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)I wonder how long that take to move through?
spooky3
(36,204 posts)Ellipsis
(9,183 posts)mcar
(43,504 posts)I donated to the cause.
triron
(22,240 posts)jack69
(163 posts)Have to try anything.