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Farmgirl1961

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Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:08 PM Nov 2016

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) Farmgirl1961 Nov 2016 OP
Wonder how ol' Ted Cruz will vote on this one. eom saltpoint Nov 2016 #1
That's not the whole clause ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2016 #2
Tribe indicates that would be a reason for impeachment Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #6
Yabbut, that's not an accurate quote from the Constitution. MineralMan Nov 2016 #3
Blasting News got hammered at DU a few days ago as clickbait. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2016 #4
I'm pretty sure that's not really a valid news source. MineralMan Nov 2016 #5

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
1. Wonder how ol' Ted Cruz will vote on this one. eom
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:11 PM
Nov 2016

eppur_se_muova

(37,436 posts)
2. That's not the whole clause ...
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:16 PM
Nov 2016
Article I, Section 9, Clause 8:

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause


There is debate over whether this can prevent tRump from being sworn in, as he can't violate the clause until he's President.
 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
6. Tribe indicates that would be a reason for impeachment
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:27 PM
Nov 2016

I tend to agree that he isn't violating it until he makes money from a foreign holding. Which would theoretically be immediately.

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
3. Yabbut, that's not an accurate quote from the Constitution.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:19 PM
Nov 2016

Here's the actual quote:

"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

See, the thing is, "accept office" is not accurate, and leaves off the rest of the text.

This is a bogus story, and really doesn't apply. This is the emoluments clause, which does apply.

If someone's going to quote the Consitution, he or she needs to quote the entire passage, not edit it selectively. What the actual passage says is very different from the edited sentence in the article.

mahatmakanejeeves

(60,993 posts)
4. Blasting News got hammered at DU a few days ago as clickbait.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:25 PM
Nov 2016

Have you looked at Ben Cardin's website or Twitter feed for confirmation?

MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
5. I'm pretty sure that's not really a valid news source.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 02:26 PM
Nov 2016

See if you can find the story in some place that we can recognize. Here's a clue. The only source for this story in Google News is that website. I'm pretty much positive it is Fake News.

See, a Senator wouldn't manipulate the content of the Constitution with a bill being introduced. The quote in the article does not even come close to representing the intent of the actual clause it pretends to quote.

Probably, this would be a good OP to self-delete. It's simply not true.

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