Over the decades we've gone from Camelot to the Borgias.

[tavernier]

The family Trump seems to fit this model quite well.

[mopinko]

1. you are forgetting obamalot

we have had almost a decade of the classiest ever.

[Cosmocat]

2. Yep - its over

and it didn't just happen with Trump.

Rs have increasingly acrued power in congress and at the state level, they had it all on November 7th.

Trump just was the fuel injected, on steroids authoritarian figure head to put the cherry on top of the fascist sunday.

WE MIGHT see some draw back to civil discourse and sober public service post Trump, assuming there is a post trump, but too many barriers have been totally smashed and it just won't be the same.

Bush II was a dimwitted dolt, but he was a somewhat affable guy who was VERY disciplined in that he said, and while he surrounded himself with hard right wingers, they still had that public service mindset. This crew has absolutely NONE of that.