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CincyDem

(6,936 posts)
1. It's a way to ensure that the little regressive states that contribute little to the GDP...
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:15 PM
Nov 2016


...get to stay relevant. It's an asinine system with such amazingly bad unintended consequences. I also believe that our inability to move beyond it will be our ultimate undoing as a country. I join your rant. It is the cockroach of our system.

Someday, when the future archeologists are surveying the history of what was America...they will conclude the country died but somehow, this thing called the electoral college still seems to have some life in it.

My hope is that day of reckoning is far in the future and my fear is that this election brought it much closer.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,729 posts)
2. I have been saying for quit a few election cycles
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:17 PM
Nov 2016

that I don't know why I bother to vote for President, since my vote doesn't count. Especially when I used to live in a red state.

If we had actual direct election of the President, we'd have had President Gore. And this year we'd have President Clinton.

So again, why should I bother?

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
4. Well cry as you might the Electoral College is here to stay..forever..
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:31 PM
Nov 2016

So maybe instead of pissing and moaning the party will have to actually appeal to liberals outside of New York and California....yes, that means actually including the interests of rural people and maybe chilling out on the whole unisex bathroom nonsense in favor of oh...I don't know.....decent jobs?....the alternative is being the tiny party of losers...

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
5. Yeah, I'm a Midwestern populist so...thanks?
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:35 PM
Nov 2016

Reaching out to the Rust Belt and eliminating the electoral college aren't exactly mutually exclusive.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
6. Yes they are....37 states will need to be on board with the elimination
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:41 PM
Nov 2016

of EC...a pipe dream....never, ever happening in any of our lifetimes or our grandchildren's...

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
7. Well, then, it seems to me that you achieve one to get to the other.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:43 PM
Nov 2016

And thanks for giving my (future) grandchildren a goal. My children are still in diapers so I've got some time.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. If you are really interested in considering the needs of rural democrats
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:51 PM
Nov 2016

You won't need to pretend getting rid of the EC is possible....it won't be necessary...

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
10. I like big goals.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:01 PM
Nov 2016

Someday. It's going to happen.

That could be a fun party game, "What will happen before we get rid of the Electoral College?"

pat_k

(10,879 posts)
11. National popular vote interstate compact
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 12:28 AM
Nov 2016

You want our president elected by popular vote?

Help get more states to pass a national popular vote bill. When the sum total of the electors from the states that have joined the compact is 270 or more, the compact is in effect, and states that are party to the compact appoint electors based on national vote (and thus the winner of the national popular vote gets the 270 electors needed).


Information about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/


If your state isn't already on board, find out the status of efforts. Do whatever you can to spread the word and put pressure on state legislators.

It has been enacted into law in the following states (total 165 electors) It will take effect when enacted by states with 105 more electoral votes.

California
Washington, D.C.
Hawaii
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Washington (state)

 

Nancyswidower

(182 posts)
12. Except....We have a better chance of being hit by lightning than that happening.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:41 AM
Nov 2016

Not to mention the yrs of Court cases that spring up contesting Constitutionality....

An Art. 5 Constitution meeting has a better chance

Amishman

(5,816 posts)
13. This, the second the compact goes live it will be fast tracked to a SCOTUS decision
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:00 PM
Nov 2016

And with the future state of the SCOTUS, we know how that will end.

No easy answers here, we need to reform the party

 

Nancyswidower

(182 posts)
14. That assumes the "compact" would go live...it won't. It wouldn't survive the court challanges.
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:23 PM
Nov 2016

There is a better chance of cloning a T-rex to adulthood than the needed number of states going along with this let alone legal setbacks ..at best, sketchy, attempt to overturn the EC....just not going to happen

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