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think

(11,641 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 03:29 PM Nov 2016

Amid calls for recount, election experts ask: Why not audit the vote?

Amid calls for recount, election experts ask: Why not audit the vote?

By Patrik Jonsson, Staff writer NOVEMBER 25, 2016

SEARCH FOR SOLUTIONS: With Green Party candidate Jill Stein calling for a Midwest recount and the North Carolina governor refusing to concede, some experts say regularly auditing voting machines would provide safeguards and improve voter confidence.


ATLANTA — Green Party candidate Jill Stein has raised more than enough money for a recount in three critical Rust Belt states that narrowly handed Donald Trump the presidency amid what she called a “hack-riddled election.”

Meanwhile, unwilling to concede a loss in North Carolina, Republican Gov. Pat McCrory claims fraudulent votes gave his opponent, Attorney General Roy Cooper, the win on Election Day.

Both gambits are highly unlikely to sway the outcome, election experts say, given scant evidence to support the fraud claims.

The fact that candidates on different sides of the political divide are unwilling to accept the results shows how divisive the 2016 election was and that more could be done to elevate Americans' confidence in the electoral system. Some election experts say regularly auditing voting machines would both provide safeguards against emboldened hackers and improve voter peace of mind...


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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/1125/Amid-calls-for-recount-election-experts-ask-Why-not-audit-the-vote
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Amid calls for recount, election experts ask: Why not audit the vote? (Original Post) think Nov 2016 OP
is hope still audacious? billymike Nov 2016 #1
Helen Keller once said: red dog 1 Nov 2016 #4
oh God Billy Mike jodymarie aimee Nov 2016 #2
all women billymike Nov 2016 #3
I have the same feeling diane in sf Nov 2016 #6
my 80 y/o mom, says the same thing. nt PunkinPi Nov 2016 #12
"An audit that manually examines a random sample of the ballots red dog 1 Nov 2016 #5
Good idea! ananda Nov 2016 #7
The corporate media decides who wins on another thrilling episode of.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #8
keep in mind, many of the PTB *don't want* the machines audited. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #9
i hope there's a growing groundswell for auditing the vote... come on people! liberalla Nov 2016 #10
Yes! Madam45for2923 Nov 2016 #11
Auditing the voting machines? astral Nov 2016 #13

billymike

(122 posts)
1. is hope still audacious?
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:03 PM
Nov 2016

I don't know what to do with my bit of hope; it is so precious to me that I fear linking it to this recount biz. But you can't cite the results or the effects of previous recounts, because, kid, we are in a new dynamic. We wanted change, right? We got it. Maybe, just hoping, it's a slower change in-process, and we will end up with a president who was dirty-tricked out of her initial win.
Is anyone else newly cautious doling out the hope?

red dog 1

(29,341 posts)
4. Helen Keller once said:
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:04 PM
Nov 2016

"Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement..Nothing can be done without hope and confidence."

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
2. oh God Billy Mike
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:42 PM
Nov 2016

I am with you. I was my old self dancing and singing, now WI bans hand count, and I go back to crying. I have got to believe we will NEVER see him in the WH.

billymike

(122 posts)
3. all women
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:01 PM
Nov 2016

who are my family or friend say that they "just don't see" him being inaugurated, no specifics, they say it's purely intuition.

red dog 1

(29,341 posts)
5. "An audit that manually examines a random sample of the ballots
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:16 PM
Nov 2016

in a way that has a large chance of detecting and correcting incorrect results.
This is called a 'risk-limiting' audit.
If the reported winner of a contest really won, a risk-limiting audit generally needs to examine only a small fraction of the ballots.
But if the reported winner actually lost, a risk-limiting audit has a large chance of indicating that a full hand count is needed to set the record straight."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028290706

(From: USA Today: Still Time for an Election Audit)

 

astral

(2,531 posts)
13. Auditing the voting machines?
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 01:01 PM
Nov 2016

Don't we all yet know they are ALL hackable and their hacks are untraceable?
#1 get rid of the voting machines.
#2 demand ID from voters, and if that is an issue, take some steps to ensure all voters can possess an ID.

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