Stein raised 6,000,000 in three days.

[madaboutharry]

Remarkable, if you ask me.

Whatever her politics, this is good for democracy and for the country.

[ucrdem]

1. If she was looking for a cause she hit the mother lode.

Hope she's up to the task because it's going to take many millions and probably many months to get to the bottom of this cesspool.

[Hekate]

2. She sure did. People are looking for a life raft, anything. Just imagine if the DNC...

....had said they were collecting money for recounts. Wonder if they would have taken in $6 million, or if the partisanship is just too great. Oddly enough, since the DNC has the infrastructure to handle it, I'd trust their abilities more. But they didn't do it, and that is key. We're stuck with Stein, hoping she can pull this off.

[ucrdem]

3. Absolutely. The sad part is that the rest of it makes no difference whatsoevery

until we can count the votes we get. It looks to me like the message was fine, the campaign was awesome, the candidate was superb and she won handily with the votes she got, never mind the millions of voters who got screwed out of their voting rights one way or the other. What happened to the ballots that were cast is another story.

[pnwmom]

4. But the Comey letter bombs swayed a bunch of undecideds at the end.

And her margin went from about 9 points ahead to 2. Unfortunately, there was no way she could have prepared for that.

[ucrdem]

5. Well, not in Wisconsin at least. Made no discernible difference at all.

In fact there was an uptick on Nov. 6, giving her a 6.5 point lead per RCP's aggregate poll. Then kerpow, she lost by one point and there are anomalies popping up all over the web, for example:

RCP WI polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5976.html

Funny WI numbers: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512620889

RCP WI discussion: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512627381

LBN--Election Fraud Complaint Filed As More People Voted Than Total Voters In 4 Wisconsin Precincts: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141625263

So there seems to be a problem in the vote-counting department.

[pnwmom]

6. The second bomb was dropped on Nov. 6 -- that uptick on the 6th would have been

from interviews conducted days before the second bomb.

We don't know what effect it had, but I'm sure it was significant. Another day of tossing around the word "criminal" and "investigations" and "re-open" -- leaving it look like everything was still up in the air. Meanwhile, the media had completely turned its attention away from Trump and the women accusers.

It's the undecideds that are most likely to be making up their minds at the end, and the undecideds most likely to be influenced by what Comey did.

[ucrdem]

7. Stein lost half her votes on Nov. 8 per RCP.

She went from 2% to 1%. Johnson also lost points, and Trump went from 40 to 48, just enough to win, and inconsistent with every poll. How would Comey-gate have produced that? The answer is that Comey-gate is the cover story. If they'd found anything criminal, they would have used it, but they couldn't and didn't. And that don't forget is what the second letter admitted.

[pnwmom]

8. The second letter was just as damaging as the first.

It doesn't matter that they said "no criminal charges" -- the word that screams out is CRIMINAL. Besides being a reminder that the Rethugs were promising even more criminal investigations of Hillary if she won, it took the media attention away from Trump's atrocities, right at the end of the election.

[ucrdem]

9. Sure but it's just one more meme. If the first letter had no effect,

how would the second, which exonerated her? Now possibly there are states where it did, but since WI is suspicious and scheduled for a recount, that's the state I'm looking at. Comey-gate was a nothingburger, and it's to Hillary's credit because they would have killed her if they'd found the least impropriety, but they couldn't.

As for Stein, well, that's who we've got eh?

[LisaL]

12. Comey's letters were very effective.

Even Corey Lewandowski admitted it (actually bragged about it during his trip overseas).
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/17/lewandowski-comeys-announcement-gave-trump-spring-his-step/94039878/

[LisaL]

11. Yea, we should believe polls, cause polls turned out to be so accurate this time around.

Did Hillary win by 6.5 points in WI? No.
Then why are you using polls as a proof of something (anything).

[ucrdem]

16. You'd rather believe Trump's former campaign manager Lewandowski?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2628821

Why?

[LisaL]

20. Hillary's campaign also blamed her loss on Comey.

Not sure what your problem is.

[LisaL]

10. I am sure most of donations are from democrats.

[FBaggins]

22. Of course they are

She wasn't able to raise this amount for her entire Presidential campaign.

[EL34x4]

13. It's good for Jill Stein and her Green Party, that's for sure.

Especially since she has yet to part with any of that money she's raised. And I suspect if recount efforts get shot down in Michigan and/or Pennsylvania, she won't fork over a dime to recount Wisconsin (which is why she's waiting until the end of the week to write Wisconsin a check for recount costs).

[LisaL]

14. She claims any money left over will be used for election integrity efforts.

Which is a platform of Green Party. So, yes, I presume Green Party gets to keep the money in case she doesn't get a recount in either MA or PA. My understanding, there is quite a good chance she won't be able to get recounts there because of how their rules are.

[dragonlady]

19. The payment for the Wisconsin recount is due on Tuesday, Nov. 29

Here's the schedule released by the Wisconsin Election Commission:

• Friday, November 25: Deadline to petition for a recount.

• Monday, November 28: Cost estimates and vote tabulation method provided by county clerk to WEC by noon. WEC provides estimated statewide costs to both the Stein and De La Fuente campaigns by close of business.

• Tuesday, November 29: Stein and/or De La Fuente campaign submits payment to WEC. Once payment is received, the WEC will issue a recount order to all presidential candidates.

• Wednesday, November 30: WEC staff will hold a teleconference for all county clerks and canvass members to go over the recount rules and processes. The teleconference is tentatively scheduled for 10am and will be held via webinar. Invitation instructions will be sent out next week. A 24-hour public meeting notice is required for the recount and therefore it should also be posted by this date.

• Thursday, December 1: Recount begins in all Wisconsin Counties. A 24-hour public meeting notice is required.

• Tuesday, December 13: Recounts must be completed under federal law.

http://elections.wi.gov/node/4439

[aikoaiko]

15. I wish it had been HRC to do this.

This is great effing advertising and recruitment for the Green Party as the party for integrity.

I donated to Stein's recount effort but the more I think about the more I realize this may cost us votes in the next Presidential election.

Still if the recount produces enough elecoltoral votes that issue may be moot. I know it's a long shot.

[ucrdem]

17. They were ready for Clinton. They weren't ready for Stein.

That's just one reason but there are others. They showed Hillary's reps what they wanted them to see but it appears they also stole half of Stein's votes and didn't expect her to come looking for them.

Surprise.

[aikoaiko]

18. Ok, but it seems like we didn't learn anything from 2000 and 2004.

[KewlKat]

21. donations have slowed down. Can she raise the remaining 800,000 to get to 7 million

before Wednesday's MI deadline? or will she file anyway if she's a bit short?

Any chatter on whether there will be more recount/audits?

[phleshdef]

23. I donated and I think she is a dingbat

But those three states in particular look very fishy. And so far she has followed through on spending the money the way that she said she would. If it changes nothing then it changes nothing. I'll never be ashamed that I donated money to that cause.