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http://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/
So, Comey knew this when he sent his letter. Were Republicans trying to preempt the FISA warrant leaking?
And, you can add this image as a comment on your posting:
http://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/
By Louise Mensch | 10:18 pm, November 7, 2016
Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of U.S. persons in Donald Trumps campaign with ties to Russia.
Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trumps Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBIs counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russias Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.
The FBI agents who talked to the New York Times, and rubbished the ground-breaking stories of Slate ( Franklin Foer) and Mother Jones (David Corn) may not have known about the FISA warrant, sources say, because the counter-intelligence and criminal sides of the FBI often work independently of each other employing the principle of compartmentalization.
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beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/7/1593084/-FBI-Granted-FISA-Warrant-Covering-Trump-Camp-s-Ties-To-Russia
by Ken Dilanian, Robert Windrem, William M. Arkin and Tom Winter Nov 1 2016, 2:43 am ET
The FBI has been conducting a preliminary inquiry into Donald Trump's former campaign manager ..... comes a day after Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid criticized Comey's revelation and asserted that Comey possesses "explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government."
Manafort told NBC News ... "This is all political propaganda, meant to deflect," ... An FBI inquiry is a preliminary examination that falls short of a criminal investigation. ......
"Any specifics of what the FBI or intelligence agencies may be looking at are not something that the bureau should be discussing publicly," Schiff said. "But here, where the director has discussed an investigation involving one candidate, it opens the director up to claims of bias if he doesn't discuss other potential investigations."
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Coyotl
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Breitbart published false information all the time. It is a conservative source, yes, from a never Trump writer, yes.
NBC has reported an inquiry by the FBI into Paul Manafort's foreign business affairs, but the Bureau hasn't "announced" it, nor does it mean a criminal case will follow.
Bethania Palma Nov 1, 2016
Claim: The FBI announced an inquiry into Russian ties between Trump's former campaign director and the Russian government.
WHAT'S TRUE: NBC reported that the FBI was looking into allegations about ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort's foreign business dealings.
WHAT'S FALSE: The FBI has not made an "announcement" regarding their actions, and an inquiry is only a review of allegations and not a formal investigation.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)focused on the topic and leading inquiries into both the trump campaign and the Russia connection.
Breitbart is a frikkin' bunch of lying propagandists. Total false equivalency on your part.
The Trump trolls hate her and love Breitbart.
@LouiseMensch How long will you pollute the world with your hack writing you Clinton shill?
uponit7771
(91,671 posts)... type of shit... not to be given the lazy M$M treatment
Coyotl
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You do realize this is not the first time a news report has gone out without the identity of the source.
uponit7771
(91,671 posts)... into the hacking, the FBI anoucement and all that shit... dude could go to jail and then other agencies in the US purged... COULD... this is a big deal
djg21
(1,803 posts)Hearst? Is that like Hearst? I don't buy it until I hear it form a non-news source like the NYTimes, or CNN, or NBC.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 8, 2016, 12:14 PM - Edit history (1)
While FBI Director Comey was incompetent and should resign, the FBI agents leaking false info to the @NYT and @BrettBaier should go to jail
General Flynn, Putin surrogate, states that the @FBI has rogue agents leaking to him
cc @20committee
NyT walking back last night's FBI walk-back on Trump / Russia.
Bad news judgement to have gone w one sided sources
I hate green politics mostly, but coal as an "unlimited resource"? The only "unlimited resource" is Trump's stupid. It never ends.
PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)Oh good god. She was a useless Tory MP who quit halfway through her term. She is an idiot and I wouldn't trust a single thing she said.
Here, have a laugh (at her):
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/louise-mensch-brexit-fabric_uk_57cff2f5e4b0d45ff8706b1c
TubbersUK
(1,441 posts)This is my personal fave:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Mensch
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Just see where their link goes.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Now to go back in time and review Trump's actions in light of the fact they knew about the FISA warrant.
So the Trump campaign knew the Trump secret Russian server FISA warrant existed when Comey's sent his letter ..... Wow. How's that for context and for what Comey may have feared was going to leak?
ZoomBubba
(289 posts)... highly unreliable. Like Brietbart and Infowars, they tend to spin the truth in a way that's not exactly true but it gets the base worked up. If it's not in the NYT, WaPo or any other mainstream source, I'm pretty cautious about putting my faith into it.
DKos is a lot of people posting whatever they want. But, they are nothing like the BS factories on the right.
You need to learn more about dKos and who is who. They have some of the most accurate poll tracking on the web. Their elections team is remarkable.
ZoomBubba
(289 posts)... and I can tell you their polls were not very accurate. They had 91 percent chance for Hillary to win and constantly told their people that Democrats were likely to have 55 seats in the Senate.
So, I don't take them very seriously. Especially since they have become more of a far left site than a Democratic one.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)They predicted a 50 seat Senate result for the Dems. And they nailed the popular vote outcome very closely. What they failed to predict is the theft of several key states. And their probability shifted down after Comey, just like everyone else's.
ZoomBubba
(289 posts)... they ignored polls that showed the race to be close. So many states were within 2 percent of each other and they fiddled around with the "don't worry, we got this" crap.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)watrwefitinfor
(1,403 posts)Unless you and/or tptb object I'll let mine stand since it points to the two other posts. But yours certainly has the needed subject line!
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Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Rec this up everyone:
from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512603154
By Bill Palmer
Just eight hours before the first polls are set to open on Election Day in the United States, one of the two Presidential candidates is suddenly facing an FBI warrant for alleged criminal activities and no, its not Hillary Clinton. One day after she was fully cleared by the Director of FBI of any wrongdoing (for the second time), it turns out the bureau is now moving on Donald Trump over his apparently illegal connections to the Russian government and other Russian entities.
It turns out the FISA warrant in question was granted back in October, but as has been his pattern, FBI Director James Comey made a point of keeping that information secret even as he tried and failed to air Hillary Clintons ultimately non-existent dirty laundry. The FBI in particular is using the warrant to pursue Donald Trumps private server, which computer scientists have determined is for secret direct communication with the largest bank in Russia.
More:
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fbi-gains-warrant-to-pursue-donald-trumps-ties-to-russia/26563/
hlthe2b
(106,248 posts)So far, other reports all cite heatstreet and that remains the only source for this.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Remember this?
In the hours since the New York Times uncovered millions of dollars in illegal secret cash payments made from a Vladimir Putin puppet to Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, all hell has broken loose ................
Just part of the context in which to consider this FISA warrant news.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)demmiblue
(37,849 posts)The website was announced in February 2016. It launched officially on April 20, 2016.[3] The website was to be headed by British journalist Louise Mensch and network producer Noah Kotch, who helped launch Vocativ.[5] The editors are quoted as saying,
We plan to break news, move the media and mock the mainstream. It takes friction to generate heat. We will rub against the grain of convention. That's our mission.[6]
The website features sections on politics, technology, culture, business, entertainment, and life.[7]
The website has been described as centre-right and libertarian. A spokesperson said that the site will, "in a spirit of free speech and no safe spaces, cover a variety of topics from a diversity of viewpoints."[8]
The Washington Times's Jennifer Harper described the site as, "The politics here are right-leaning and libertarian-minded; the publication also covers culture wars, commentary, technology, celebrity, business and assorted lifestyle matters."[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Street
progressoid
(50,734 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)dKos and other reports ALL base their reporting on Heat Street.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The very first two words of the article contradict you. Maybe read it first, then comment ........
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Coyotl
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for a reason. She is breaking the story of the FISA warrant. Great digging on her part to bring more of the story to light.
Our sources reported "US persons" connected with the inquiry
Because you were the first person accurately to report on Trump's Russian server
David Corn @DavidCornDC
I have been banned by @realDonaldTrump. I was denied credentials for Trump election night event.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)in journalism. In fact, many journalists are people who lean right. Are they all unreliable? Do we need to reject everything any lean-right libertarian prints because they aren't in your personal political circle?
Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Have the objectors above read the whole article? There ' a lot there to go on.
.... The fact that the alleged warrant was a FISA warrant is itself significant. The court exists to grant warrants to examine cases concerned with Foreign Intelligence.
... On October 9th, the Trump campaign released a large number of documents pointing out what they alleged were Hillary Clintons ties to Russia. On October 12th, rumors of a FISA warrant started to surface online. Donald Trumps campaign had not answered requests for comment on the matter at time of going to press. ..........
@1CheekyLilMe1 @MrDane1982 There was ex FBI Counter Intelligence agent on @amjoyshow he said; don't be surprised FISA court warrant fr Trump
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Wonder if this has anything to do with the Crimea invasion lawyer trump 'volunteer'. Trump sure got rid of him quickly. We'll have to wait and see what happens once the election is over.
If they have a warrant, authorities usually move quickly and seize all devices for review.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)So this is not related to Crimea, it goes back to Trump campaign people in Russia around the days when the DNC hack was found.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)would think it's very unusual for a foreign high powered Lawyer to volunteer to work for free on any campaign.
Especially a Lawyer who was millions of $s involved with the Russia invasion & takeover of Crimea.
BlueMTexpat
(15,493 posts)posted on its Home Page, I think I'll wait to see whether the story is posted from a more mainstream source before disseminating.
Check it out: http://heatst.com/
Here's what Wiki has to say about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Street
It's owned by Murdoch's News Corp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corp
demmiblue
(37,849 posts)[img][/img]
And this is info about that author:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Daubney
I would never use this site as a source.
BlueMTexpat
(15,493 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Finding another author writing there does not discredit her article.
By Louise Mensch | 2:40 pm, November 3, 2016
Hillary Clintons poll lead has narrowed but her actual early voting lead looks to be incredibly solid in must-win states.
Nevada, which Democrats had worried they might lose, seems to be coming in clearly lean Democratic according to actual early votes.
The forecaster Harry Entern on 538.com pointed out in a tweet our model is based on polls and not early voting suggesting that Clinton might heavily outperform her polls.
demmiblue
(37,849 posts)Integrity of a source is important to me.
You think otherwise. Opinions vary.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Check her other articles too:
In my last article, I demonstrated how both pure robot twitter accounts, and curated robot twitter accounts, run from and by Russia, work to boost Donald Trump online.
Further to that story, I have worked with a patriotic data scientist to model how Russian eggs and bot accounts give the alt-right for Trump wide dissemination.
My first piece shows, on video, how Russian troll accounts re-tweet, then instantly delete, Donald Trumps online campaign manager Dan Scavino. .............
The Trump bots pushed "Reno" to trend when they were claiming the beating victim was an assassin. This capture shows the pattern, partial faces in all the fake accounts that forgot to add the link to their identical post:
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)This has to be counted as not credible unless and until it is corroborated by a reputable source.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The rest we knew about and this fits the rest of the story.
Did you think the FBI would sweep the Trump secret Russia server evidence under a rug somewhere and not pursue it?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)If it's accurate, it will be reported by other indepedent sources. So far, that hasn't happened.
It doesn't matter what I think--it's what can be substantiated by journalists.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)That's why it is a breaking story. Are you trying to infer that she is lying?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)requires corroboration of the report. It has been out for some time now, with nothing to validate it.
I'm not saying it's a lie. It could be true. But so far, it's unsubstantiated.
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Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Janet Shan on November 4, 2016
The complaint was filed by the Democratic Coalition Against Trump on Friday.
DCAT said in a news release, In July, Giuliani said that Russia has the 33,000 emails deleted from Clintons private email server, going on to say that he does cybersecurity for a living so its a subject he knows according to a Politico article. Giuliani then stated, The Russians have those emails, theyve had them for some time.
Rudy Giuliani stated that he knew the Russians had hacked into and stole property that belonged to Secretary Clinton, it doesnt get much more clear-cut than that, said Scott Dworkin, Senior Advisor to the Coalition.
Its not surprising that someone so close to Trumps campaign would have knowledge of the attacks perpetrated at the hand of a foreign government.
Read the complaint filed with the FBI against Giuliani: ..........
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Coyotl
(15,262 posts)By Mark Sumner Monday Oct 31, 2016 · 6:03 AM PDT
Harry Reid wrote a scathing letter to FBI Director James Comey, warning Comey that he may have broken the law.
I am writing to inform you that my office has determined that these actions may violate the Hatch Act, which bars FBI officials from using their official authority to influence an election. Through your partisan actions, you may have broken the law.
Which is a remarkable enough. But its far from the biggest charge in Reids letter.
In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government -- a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity. The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.
Harry Reid is saying that the FBI not only knows of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, but that the FBI is deliberately shielding this information, while misdirecting public attention toward the email scandal without any valid information.
If Reid is right, then James Comey is guilty of something that goes far beyond just using his office to provide a competitive advantage to a candidate. Comey is using the full weight of the FBI to swing the election to a man he knows is in service to a foreign power. ...........
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Serious questions have been raised.
Serious questions have been raised about overt and covert actions by Trump campaign officials on behalf of Russian interests, the Ranking Members wrote. It is critical for the American public to know whether those actions may have directly caused or indirectly motivated attacks against Democratic institutions and our fundamental election process.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)just desserts.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141594920
By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY and JULIE PACE
Oct. 12, 2016 4:10 AM EDT
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. (AP) Hillary Clinton's top adviser said the FBI is investigating Russia's possible role in hacking thousands of his personal emails, an intrusion he said Donald Trump's campaign may have been aware of in advance.
If true, the assertion from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta would amount to an extraordinary link between Russia and an American presidential campaign. Podesta said the alleged ties could be driven either by Trump's policy positions, which at times echo the Kremlin, or the Republican's "deep engagement and ties with Russian interests in his business affairs."
To Podesta, the central figure in the swirling controversy is longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone, who has said he has been in touch with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Podesta also raised as evidence an August tweet in which Stone said Podesta's "time in the barrel" was coming. The tweet was sent shortly after WikiLeaks published scores of hacked emails from other Democratic officials.
"I think it's a reasonable assumption, or at least a reasonable conclusion, that Mr. Stone and the Trump campaign had advance warning about what Assange was going to do," Podesta told reporters aboard the Clinton campaign plane. Podesta acknowledged the evidence was "circumstantial."
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/88ac9159e5c449f599e0949c3cbb8034/clinton-aide-links-trump-campaign-russian-email-hacking
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)from: http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10141601641
Czech police arrested a Russian citizen suspected by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of hacking targets in the U.S. and officials are considering his extradition.
Officers alerted by a so-called Red Notice from Interpol detained the man at a hotel in the capital, Czech police said in a statement on their website published late on Tuesday. The man, whom officials didnt name, had been moving around the European Union state in a luxury car with his girlfriend, it said. The Prague city court ordered the suspect to remain in custody as authorities decide on whether or not to extradite him to the U.S., according to the statement.
The suspect was so surprised by the police action that he put up no resistance, police said in the statement. Immediately after the detention, the man exhibited signs of collapse and police had to provide first aid and, in the end, he was hospitalized.
The arrest follows accusations from President Barack Obamas administration that Russias government is involved with hackers targeting U.S. targets, and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has blamed President Vladimir Putin for leaks that have hit her campaign. The Russian leader has repudiated the charges, as hysteria and said Obamas government wants to distract the attention of Americans from the substance of the hacked material.
Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-19/czech-police-arrest-russian-suspected-of-hacking-u-s-targets-iugnski3
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 8, 2016, 11:46 AM - Edit history (1)
from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141612269
Source: Slate
In late July, one of these scientistswho asked to be referred to as Tea Leaves, a pseudonym that would protect his relationship with the networks and banks that employ him to sift their datafound what looked like malware emanating from Russia. The destination domain had Trump in its name, which of course attracted Tea Leaves attention. But his discovery of the data was pure happenstancea surprising needle in a large haystack of DNS lookups on his screen. I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way, he wrote in his notes. He couldnt quite figure it out at first. But what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization on Fifth Avenue.
Read more: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)David CornOct. 31, 2016 6:52 PM
On Friday, FBI Director James Comey set off a political blast when he informed congressional leaders that the bureau had stumbled across emails that might be pertinent to its completed inquiry into Hillary Clinton's handling of emails when she was secretary of state. The Clinton campaign and others criticized Comey for intervening in a presidential campaign by breaking with Justice Department tradition and revealing information about an investigationinformation that was vague and perhaps ultimately irrelevantso close to Election Day. On Sunday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid upped the ante. He sent Comey a fiery letter saying the FBI chief may have broken the law and pointed to a potentially greater controversy: "In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government The public has a right to know this information."
Reid's missive set off a burst of speculation on Twitter and elsewhere. What was he referring to regarding the Republican presidential nominee? At the end of August, Reid had written to Comey and demanded an investigation of the "connections between the Russian government and Donald Trump's presidential campaign," and in that letter he indirectly referred to Carter Page, an American businessman cited by Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers, who had financial ties to Russia and had recently visited Moscow. Last month, Yahoo News reported that US intelligence officials were probing the links between Page and senior Russian officials. (Page has called accusations against him "garbage." On Monday, NBC News reported that the FBI has mounted a preliminary inquiry into the foreign business ties of Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign chief. But Reid's recent note hinted at more than the Page or Manafort affairs. And a former senior intelligence officer for a Western country who specialized in Russian counterintelligence tells Mother Jones that in recent months he provided the bureau with memos, based on his recent interactions with Russian sources, contending the Russian government has for years tried to co-opt and assist Trumpand that the FBI requested more information from him.
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Blanks
(4,835 posts)We must move past this sort of thing.
Obviously, if the election does not go the way it is expected to go, this is something that should be pursued.
However, just like the folks who think Bush and Cheney should be in jail, it doesn't move us forward to hope that the opposition party continue to stay in the news.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141554710
The investigation is broad and is looking into whether US companies and the financial system were used to aid alleged corruption by the party of former president Viktor Yanukovych.
Manafort, who resigned as chairman of Donald Trump's campaign Friday, has not been the focus of the probe, according to the law enforcement officials. The investigation is ongoing and prosecutors haven't ruled anything out, the officials said. ......
Anti-corruption investigators in Ukraine have alleged Yanukovych and members of his party ran a corrupt regime. He fled to Russia following a public uprising in 2014.
The FBI, Justice Department and Manafort declined to comment. A Washington attorney who represents Manafort and Yanukovych didn't respond to a request for comment.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/politics/paul-manafort-donald-trump-ukraine/index.html
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028272628
In an episode reminiscent of Watergate, the Democratic Party recently informed the FBI that it had collected evidence suggesting its Washington headquarters had been bugged, according to two Democratic National Committee officials who asked not to be named.
In September, according to these sources, the DNC hired a firm to conduct an electronic sweep of its offices. After Russian hackers had penetrated its email system and those of other Democratic targets, DNC officials believed it was prudent to scrutinize their offices. This examination found nothing unusual.
In late October, after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a new set of hidden-camera videos targeting Democrats, interim party chairwoman Donna Brazile ordered up another sweep..... Republican foes might have infiltrated the DNC offices, where volunteers were reporting to work on phone banks and other election activities. ....
The second sweep, according to the Democratic officials, found a radio signal near the chairman's office that indicated there might be a listening device outside the office. "We were told that this was something that could pick up calls from cellphones," a DNC official says. "The guys who did the sweep said it was a strong indication." No device was recovered. No possible culprits were identified.
The DNC sent a report with the technical details to the FBI .....
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)dKos: by bently Dec 01, 2016
.... a small amount of this unusual data exchange involved a server owned by Spectrum Health in Michigan. While one could build a tentative narrative about a hidden exchange between a Trump company and a Russian bank, what in the heck was a Michigan health care system doing in the mix? It made no sense .............
... Spectrum Health is connected to our newly named Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. Her husband is chairman of the board. A childrens hospital in the Spectrum system is named after her mother-in-law. Suddenly another dot connected and a tiny whiff of a conspiracy theory began percolating in my mind.
Im not a conspiracy theory buff. Ive never believed in one of them, even the more plausible, once even more plausible information came out to rebut it. So Im sure there are plenty of ways that this could turn out to be one big implausible coincidence.
But heres the thing. It doesnt have to be that Trump himself or Betsy DeVos or even Putins friend Pyotr Aven of Alfa bank knew anything about these servers or what they were doing. These extraordinarily wealthy beings have hoards of underlings, sycophants and manager-types .........
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts).@McFaul on @maddow just now: White House avoided Russian intereference talk so as not to tilt the election. Wow.
The Rachel Maddow Show 12/1/16 - - - Senators seek to declassify info on Russia role in US election
Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia, talks with Rachel Maddow about a new request by Democratic senators to President Barack Obama asking for the release of more information about Russia's role in the U.S. election. VIDEO: Duration: 7:23
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,674 posts)Curious what's happening over there... are they laughing their butts off or what?
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)One plausible reason why we are not getting to see any of the evidence would be a criminal probe in progress.
CentralMass
(15,526 posts)WhiteTara
(30,150 posts)Rupert Murdochs News Corp. Sets Up Conservative Website Heat Street
Website is led by Louise Mensch, left, who is married to Metallica manager Peter Mensch, right
Rupert Murdochs News Corp. is planning to launch Heat Street, a libertarian website that will serve a right-of-center audience in the U.S. and the U.K. It will be led by Louise Mensch, a former Conservative Party Member of Parliament in the U.K, and Noah Kotch, a former TV producer for NBC and ABC.
Mensch, who now lives in New York, said in a tweet that the site will be somewhere where disagreement is encouraged. Investigative journalist Miles Goslett, whose scoops have included reports on the Jimmy Savile sex-abuse scandal and the controversy surrounding childrens charity Kids Company, has been appointed Heat Streets U.K. editor.
triron
(22,240 posts)to what Reid just said on CNN about the "connection" the Trump election team had with the Russians?
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Manafort departed the Trump campaign (at least publicly) on account of his previous connections, not?
We know the hackers used a server in Russia. Didn't a server in Russia send the hacked material to Wikileaks? We know the investigation of the DNC hack led to discovering Trump's secret server connection to an IP in Russia called Alfa Bank. Maybe Putin will tell us where that server connected. I assume the US intelligence community is in the dark on that part of the story. Putin might have Donnie by the .....
KewlKat
(5,649 posts)tiny hands?