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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 07:58 AM Nov 2016

FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia.

Last edited Thu Dec 1, 2016, 03:57 PM - Edit history (3)


Oh sweet irony! Trump's secret email server connected to Russia is the subject of an FBI investigation. Trump's secret server was found during the investigation of the hacking of DNC computers from a server in Russia. The warrant will allow reading the secret emails.

http://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/


So, Comey knew this when he sent his letter. Were Republicans trying to preempt the FISA warrant leaking?

And, you can add this image as a comment on your posting:




http://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/
By Louise Mensch | 10:18 pm, November 7, 2016

Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.

The FBI agents who talked to the New York Times, and rubbished the ground-breaking stories of Slate ( Franklin Foer) and Mother Jones (David Corn) may not have known about the FISA warrant, sources say, because the counter-intelligence and criminal sides of the FBI often work independently of each other employing the principle of ‘compartmentalization’.

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FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia. (Original Post) Coyotl Nov 2016 OP
need a more mainstream link...otherwise its like breitbart to me beachbum bob Nov 2016 #1
OP updated plus Daily Kos' FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ * Part of article based on NBC news report. Coyotl Nov 2016 #3
again it all sounds like breitbart....when it runs on NYT or washington Post let me know beachbum bob Nov 2016 #5
It does not sound like Brietbart at all. Here's Snopes: Coyotl Nov 2016 #13
its same type of innuendo no better than breitbart.... beachbum bob Nov 2016 #17
It is a report of a FISA warrant confirmed by intelligence source, reported by a news journalist Coyotl Nov 2016 #23
For this kind of info some official name needs to be on it, not just some "source" this is no joke uponit7771 Nov 2016 #30
By that standard, every "government official stated" report in news would be buried. Deep Throat? Coyotl Nov 2016 #33
Not every report carries the weight this one does, tangible ties to Russia would be investigations uponit7771 Nov 2016 #51
It looks like fake news to me, djg21 Dec 2016 #70
Check out author Louise Mensch's tweets: Coyotl Nov 2016 #19
Louise Mensch? . PaulaFarrell Nov 2016 #55
LOL TubbersUK Dec 2016 #75
dKos is relying entirely on Heat Street pinboy3niner Nov 2016 #6
Yes. But without Daily Kos, we might not have noticed this news from a Never Trump'er. Coyotl Nov 2016 #45
Kos is still ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #72
LOL. Coyotl Dec 2016 #76
I know enough about DKos, I had a diary there ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #77
You are wrong. Coyotl Dec 2016 #78
No, they were interested in painting a picture different than reality ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #80
Hahaha!! His emails will be read! ~and probably we'll get his taxes finally! Madam45for2923 Nov 2016 #2
Two great minds. watrwefitinfor Nov 2016 #4
Election eve stunner: FBI gains warrant to pursue Donald Trump over his ties to Russia Coyotl Nov 2016 #39
Without reliable sourcing, I think we'd be foolish to disseminate this. hlthe2b Nov 2016 #7
Yes pinboy3niner Nov 2016 #8
The source is reliable, unless lean right disqualifies journalists. Coyotl Nov 2016 #36
How many business hours until the MSM pick this up? n/t Orsino Nov 2016 #53
That is not a reliable source. demmiblue Nov 2016 #9
Thanks for the info. progressoid Nov 2016 #10
And so far, it is the ONLY source pinboy3niner Nov 2016 #12
"Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street Coyotl Nov 2016 #37
No, it's the only media source--and it claims 2 anonymous sources. nt pinboy3niner Nov 2016 #38
Indeed, the article ie titled "EXCLUSIVE ..." Coyotl Nov 2016 #44
Can you point out one thing that has been proven wrong on their site. Lean-right isn't a crime Coyotl Nov 2016 #28
this!!! Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #62
knr triron Nov 2016 #63
Plenty of reliable sources for almost every detail in the article. FISA warrant is the news. Coyotl Nov 2016 #11
They have a FISA warrant! That's a serious step forward. Sunlei Nov 2016 #14
Trump's secret Russia server was discovered as part of the DNC hack investigation. Coyotl Nov 2016 #34
ok, I see. That's a different connection to Russia than the surprise 'volunteer Lawyer' Sunlei Nov 2016 #40
Having looked at some of the other stories BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #15
This is on their politics page: demmiblue Nov 2016 #21
I concur! BlueMTexpat Nov 2016 #25
This too: By Louise Mensch = Early Voting Says Hillary Clinton Wins Nevada – Expert Coyotl Nov 2016 #31
In my view, it discredits using that site as a source. demmiblue Nov 2016 #32
Check out the author's Twitter here: Coyotl Nov 2016 #16
Heat Street is the SOLE source for this and is the basis for all the other stories pinboy3niner Nov 2016 #18
Louise Mensch is the author of the story, and the new news is just the FISA warrant. Coyotl Nov 2016 #20
The warrant "news" is uncorroborated pinboy3niner Nov 2016 #22
But the journalist has done due diliigence and has intelligence sources. Coyotl Nov 2016 #26
I'm not inferring anything, but my own due diligence for credibility... pinboy3niner Nov 2016 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #24
Almost every part of the article is known to be true. The breaking news is the FISA warrant. Coyotl Nov 2016 #27
FBI Complaint Filed Against Rudy Giuliani for Knowledge of Russian Hacks Coyotl Nov 2016 #35
Harry Reid makes most serious accusation of the campaign: Comey covering up Trump–Russia connection Coyotl Nov 2016 #41
Top House Dems Seek FBI Investigation of Possible Trump Connections to Cyber Attacks Coyotl Nov 2016 #42
Donald Trump will finally have to pay the piper. He has exposed himself and I hope he gets his TrekLuver Nov 2016 #43
Clinton aide links Trump campaign to Russian email hacking Coyotl Nov 2016 #46
Czech Police Arrest Russian Suspected of Hacking U.S. Targets Coyotl Nov 2016 #47
Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia? Coyotl Nov 2016 #48
David Corn on Russian Operation to Help Trump - FBI investigation Coyotl Nov 2016 #49
A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump Coyotl Nov 2016 #50
In order for the healing to begin... Blanks Nov 2016 #52
Feds investigate Trump campaign manager Manafort's firm as part of Ukraine probe Coyotl Nov 2016 #58
Watergate 2.0: DNC Told FBI It Found Evidence Its HQ Was Bugged Coyotl Nov 2016 #59
Looks like the hacker was here. Coyotl Nov 2016 #60
kicking Coyotl Nov 2016 #61
Kick. Hekate Nov 2016 #62
Anyone heard any more news about this? Coyotl Nov 2016 #64
What an odd coincidence. Russia and servers and Trump and DeVos Coyotl Dec 2016 #65
Who is "heatst.com"? n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #66
Lewandowski must be drinking like a monster right about now. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #67
Maddow Show: Senators seek to declassify info on Russia role in US election Coyotl Dec 2016 #68
Electors demand intelligence briefing before Electoral College vote Coyotl Dec 2016 #69
Isn't the NSA scooping up everything between Trump and Russia?? C_U_L8R Dec 2016 #71
Yes, the metadata was used to discover the Trump secret server. Coyotl Dec 2016 #79
What, does he need help scrubbing it ? CentralMass Dec 2016 #73
This is a Murdock site WhiteTara Dec 2016 #74
Could this be related triron Dec 2016 #81
There is more to this story than people realize. Manafort has run campaigns over there. Coyotl Dec 2016 #83
Putin might have Donnie by the KewlKat Dec 2016 #85
knr triron Dec 2016 #82
Comey must recuse himself. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #84
knr triron Dec 2016 #86
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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
3. OP updated plus Daily Kos' FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ * Part of article based on NBC news report.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:02 AM
Nov 2016
I found this story on dKos.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/7/1593084/-FBI-Granted-FISA-Warrant-Covering-Trump-Camp-s-Ties-To-Russia

Long time since I’ve blogged here. Or done anything here. But I thought this maybe merited some attention. The site itself is conservative, mostly full of crap, but the author is a reliable #NeverTrump type. Day late and dollar short. Make of it what you will.


NBC ** FBI Making Inquiry Into Ex-Trump Campaign Manager's Foreign Ties
by Ken Dilanian, Robert Windrem, William M. Arkin and Tom Winter Nov 1 2016, 2:43 am ET

The FBI has been conducting a preliminary inquiry into Donald Trump's former campaign manager ..... comes a day after Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid criticized Comey's revelation and asserted that Comey possesses "explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government."

Manafort told NBC News ... "This is all political propaganda, meant to deflect," ... An FBI inquiry is a preliminary examination that falls short of a criminal investigation. ......

"Any specifics of what the FBI or intelligence agencies may be looking at are not something that the bureau should be discussing publicly," Schiff said. "But here, where the director has discussed an investigation involving one candidate, it opens the director up to claims of bias if he doesn't discuss other potential investigations."
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. It does not sound like Brietbart at all. Here's Snopes:
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:26 AM
Nov 2016

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Breitbart published false information all the time. It is a conservative source, yes, from a never Trump writer, yes.

FB Aye Aye Aye
NBC has reported an inquiry by the FBI into Paul Manafort's foreign business affairs, but the Bureau hasn't "announced" it, nor does it mean a criminal case will follow.
Bethania Palma Nov 1, 2016

Claim: The FBI announced an inquiry into Russian ties between Trump's former campaign director and the Russian government.
WHAT'S TRUE: NBC reported that the FBI was looking into allegations about ex-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort's foreign business dealings.

WHAT'S FALSE: The FBI has not made an "announcement" regarding their actions, and an inquiry is only a review of allegations and not a formal investigation.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
23. It is a report of a FISA warrant confirmed by intelligence source, reported by a news journalist
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:50 AM
Nov 2016

focused on the topic and leading inquiries into both the trump campaign and the Russia connection.

Breitbart is a frikkin' bunch of lying propagandists. Total false equivalency on your part.

The Trump trolls hate her and love Breitbart.

Deplorable Rob ‏@RobertPEdmunds Oct 29
@LouiseMensch How long will you pollute the world with your hack writing you Clinton shill?

uponit7771

(91,671 posts)
30. For this kind of info some official name needs to be on it, not just some "source" this is no joke
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:03 AM
Nov 2016

... type of shit... not to be given the lazy M$M treatment

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
33. By that standard, every "government official stated" report in news would be buried. Deep Throat?
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:08 AM
Nov 2016

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You do realize this is not the first time a news report has gone out without the identity of the source.

uponit7771

(91,671 posts)
51. Not every report carries the weight this one does, tangible ties to Russia would be investigations
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:45 AM
Nov 2016

... into the hacking, the FBI anoucement and all that shit... dude could go to jail and then other agencies in the US purged... COULD... this is a big deal

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
70. It looks like fake news to me,
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:51 PM
Dec 2016

Hearst? Is that like Hearst? I don't buy it until I hear it form a non-news source like the NYTimes, or CNN, or NBC.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
19. Check out author Louise Mensch's tweets:
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:40 AM
Nov 2016

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Louise Mensch @LouiseMensch Nov 6
While FBI Director Comey was incompetent and should resign, the FBI agents leaking false info to the @NYT and @BrettBaier should go to jail


Louise Mensch ‏@LouiseMensch Nov 2
General Flynn, Putin surrogate, states that the @FBI has rogue agents leaking to him
cc @20committee


Louise Mensch‏@LouiseMensch Nov 1 Retweeted Ian Sams
NyT walking back last night's FBI walk-back on Trump / Russia.
Bad news judgement to have gone w one sided sources


Louise Mensch ‏@LouiseMensch Oct 29 Manhattan, NY
I hate green politics mostly, but coal as an "unlimited resource"? The only "unlimited resource" is Trump's stupid. It never ends.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
55. Louise Mensch? .
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 11:13 AM
Nov 2016

Oh good god. She was a useless Tory MP who quit halfway through her term. She is an idiot and I wouldn't trust a single thing she said.

Here, have a laugh (at her):
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/louise-mensch-brexit-fabric_uk_57cff2f5e4b0d45ff8706b1c

TubbersUK

(1,441 posts)
75. LOL
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 02:34 PM
Dec 2016

This is my personal fave:

In August 2015, Mensch tweeted a screenshot suggesting that antisemitic searches were being made by Jeremy Corbyn supporters to purposefully trigger offensive auto-complete suggestions for her Twitter account. Other users quickly pointed out that her screenshot was actually of her own search history. Mensch denied attempting to smear the Corbyn campaign.[69][70]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Mensch
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
45. Yes. But without Daily Kos, we might not have noticed this news from a Never Trump'er.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:16 AM
Nov 2016

Now to go back in time and review Trump's actions in light of the fact they knew about the FISA warrant.

So the Trump campaign knew the Trump secret Russian server FISA warrant existed when Comey's sent his letter ..... Wow. How's that for context and for what Comey may have feared was going to leak?

ZoomBubba

(289 posts)
72. Kos is still ...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:57 PM
Dec 2016

... highly unreliable. Like Brietbart and Infowars, they tend to spin the truth in a way that's not exactly true but it gets the base worked up. If it's not in the NYT, WaPo or any other mainstream source, I'm pretty cautious about putting my faith into it.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
76. LOL.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:41 PM
Dec 2016

DKos is a lot of people posting whatever they want. But, they are nothing like the BS factories on the right.

You need to learn more about dKos and who is who. They have some of the most accurate poll tracking on the web. Their elections team is remarkable.

ZoomBubba

(289 posts)
77. I know enough about DKos, I had a diary there ...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:46 PM
Dec 2016

... and I can tell you their polls were not very accurate. They had 91 percent chance for Hillary to win and constantly told their people that Democrats were likely to have 55 seats in the Senate.

So, I don't take them very seriously. Especially since they have become more of a far left site than a Democratic one.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
78. You are wrong.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:03 PM
Dec 2016

They predicted a 50 seat Senate result for the Dems. And they nailed the popular vote outcome very closely. What they failed to predict is the theft of several key states. And their probability shifted down after Comey, just like everyone else's.

ZoomBubba

(289 posts)
80. No, they were interested in painting a picture different than reality ...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:09 PM
Dec 2016

... they ignored polls that showed the race to be close. So many states were within 2 percent of each other and they fiddled around with the "don't worry, we got this" crap.

watrwefitinfor

(1,403 posts)
4. Two great minds.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:03 AM
Nov 2016


Unless you and/or tptb object I'll let mine stand since it points to the two other posts. But yours certainly has the needed subject line!

Wat
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
39. Election eve stunner: FBI gains warrant to pursue Donald Trump over his ties to Russia
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:40 AM
Nov 2016

Rec this up everyone:

from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512603154

Election eve stunner: FBI gains warrant to pursue Donald Trump over his ties to Russia
By Bill Palmer

Just eight hours before the first polls are set to open on Election Day in the United States, one of the two Presidential candidates is suddenly facing an FBI warrant for alleged criminal activities – and no, it’s not Hillary Clinton. One day after she was fully cleared by the Director of FBI of any wrongdoing (for the second time), it turns out the bureau is now moving on Donald Trump over his apparently illegal connections to the Russian government and other Russian entities.

It turns out the FISA warrant in question was granted back in October, but as has been his pattern, FBI Director James Comey made a point of keeping that information secret – even as he tried and failed to air Hillary Clinton’s ultimately non-existent dirty laundry. The FBI in particular is using the warrant to pursue Donald Trump’s private server, which computer scientists have determined is for secret direct communication with the largest bank in Russia.

More:
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fbi-gains-warrant-to-pursue-donald-trumps-ties-to-russia/26563/

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
36. The source is reliable, unless lean right disqualifies journalists.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:22 AM
Nov 2016

Remember this?

Trump campaign meltdown: Paul Manafort paid off by Russia

In the hours since the New York Times uncovered millions of dollars in illegal secret cash payments made from a Vladimir Putin puppet to Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, all hell has broken loose ................


Just part of the context in which to consider this FISA warrant news.

demmiblue

(37,849 posts)
9. That is not a reliable source.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:13 AM
Nov 2016
Heat Street is a conservative opinion and commentary website. Launched in February 2016, the website is headed by British writer and former politician Louise Mensch.[3][4] It is owned by News Corp under Dow Jones & Company.

The website was announced in February 2016. It launched officially on April 20, 2016.[3] The website was to be headed by British journalist Louise Mensch and network producer Noah Kotch, who helped launch Vocativ.[5] The editors are quoted as saying,

We plan to break news, move the media and mock the mainstream. It takes friction to generate heat. We will rub against the grain of convention. That's our mission.[6]

The website features sections on politics, technology, culture, business, entertainment, and life.[7]

The website has been described as centre-right and libertarian. A spokesperson said that the site will, "in a spirit of free speech and no ‘safe spaces,’ cover a variety of topics from a diversity of viewpoints."[8]

The Washington Times's Jennifer Harper described the site as, "The politics here are right-leaning and libertarian-minded; the publication also covers culture wars, commentary, technology, celebrity, business and assorted lifestyle matters."[6]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Street
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
37. "Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:24 AM
Nov 2016

The very first two words of the article contradict you. Maybe read it first, then comment ........

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
44. Indeed, the article ie titled "EXCLUSIVE ..."
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:06 AM
Nov 2016

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for a reason. She is breaking the story of the FISA warrant. Great digging on her part to bring more of the story to light.

Louise Mensch ‏@LouiseMensch 6:41 AM PST - 8 Nov 2016
Our sources reported "US persons" connected with the inquiry


Louise Mensch @LouiseMensch Retweeted David Corn
Because you were the first person accurately to report on Trump's Russian server

David Corn @DavidCornDC
I have been banned by @realDonaldTrump. I was denied credentials for Trump election night event.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
28. Can you point out one thing that has been proven wrong on their site. Lean-right isn't a crime
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:58 AM
Nov 2016

in journalism. In fact, many journalists are people who lean right. Are they all unreliable? Do we need to reject everything any lean-right libertarian prints because they aren't in your personal political circle?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
11. Plenty of reliable sources for almost every detail in the article. FISA warrant is the news.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:22 AM
Nov 2016

Have the objectors above read the whole article? There ' a lot there to go on.

The discovery of the Trump Tower private Russian server, however, communicating with Alfa Bank, changed matters, sources report.

.... The fact that the alleged warrant was a FISA warrant is itself significant. The court exists to grant warrants to examine cases concerned with Foreign Intelligence.

... On October 9th, the Trump campaign released a large number of documents pointing out what they alleged were Hillary Clinton’s ties to Russia. On October 12th, rumors of a FISA warrant started to surface online. Donald Trump’s campaign had not answered requests for comment on the matter at time of going to press. ..........



Tim @russelltim151 6:00 PM - 5 Nov 2016
@1CheekyLilMe1 @MrDane1982 There was ex FBI Counter Intelligence agent on @amjoyshow he said; don't be surprised FISA court warrant fr Trump

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. They have a FISA warrant! That's a serious step forward.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:29 AM
Nov 2016

Wonder if this has anything to do with the Crimea invasion lawyer trump 'volunteer'. Trump sure got rid of him quickly. We'll have to wait and see what happens once the election is over.

If they have a warrant, authorities usually move quickly and seize all devices for review.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
34. Trump's secret Russia server was discovered as part of the DNC hack investigation.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:12 AM
Nov 2016

So this is not related to Crimea, it goes back to Trump campaign people in Russia around the days when the DNC hack was found.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
40. ok, I see. That's a different connection to Russia than the surprise 'volunteer Lawyer'
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:41 AM
Nov 2016

would think it's very unusual for a foreign high powered Lawyer to volunteer to work for free on any campaign.

Especially a Lawyer who was millions of $s involved with the Russia invasion & takeover of Crimea.

BlueMTexpat

(15,493 posts)
15. Having looked at some of the other stories
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:31 AM
Nov 2016

posted on its Home Page, I think I'll wait to see whether the story is posted from a more mainstream source before disseminating.

Check it out: http://heatst.com/

Here's what Wiki has to say about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Street

It's owned by Murdoch's News Corp. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corp

demmiblue

(37,849 posts)
21. This is on their politics page:
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:48 AM
Nov 2016

[img][/img]

And this is info about that author:

Martin Edward Daubney (born 22 June 1970 in Gedling, Nottinghamshire) is the longest-serving editor of lad magazine Loaded. Daubney was responsible for the title's relaunch in April 2005. Daubney introduced "new laddism"[clarification needed] and said “Men have realised that if they adopt the ways of the gays, they get laid more often.” [1] He is also a friend of Milo Yiannopoulos, having participated in the Breitbart journalist's day long YouTube Livestream Big Milo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Daubney



I would never use this site as a source.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
31. This too: By Louise Mensch = Early Voting Says Hillary Clinton Wins Nevada – Expert
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:03 AM
Nov 2016

Finding another author writing there does not discredit her article.

Early Voting Says Hillary Clinton Wins Nevada – Expert
By Louise Mensch | 2:40 pm, November 3, 2016

Hillary Clinton’s poll lead has narrowed – but her actual early voting lead looks to be incredibly solid in must-win states.

Nevada, which Democrats had worried they might lose, seems to be coming in clearly ‘lean Democratic’ according to actual early votes.

The forecaster Harry Entern on 538.com pointed out in a tweet ‘our model is based on polls’ and not early voting – suggesting that Clinton might heavily outperform her polls.

demmiblue

(37,849 posts)
32. In my view, it discredits using that site as a source.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:07 AM
Nov 2016

Integrity of a source is important to me.

You think otherwise. Opinions vary.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. Check out the author's Twitter here:
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:33 AM
Nov 2016
https://twitter.com/search?q=Louise%20Mensch

Check her other articles too:

Russian Intel Bots Are Boosting Infowars Alt-Right Twitter Accounts For Trump

In my last article, I demonstrated how both pure robot twitter accounts, and curated robot twitter accounts, run from and by Russia, work to boost Donald Trump online.

Further to that story, I have worked with a patriotic data scientist to model how Russian eggs and bot accounts give the alt-right for Trump wide dissemination.

My first piece shows, on video, how Russian troll accounts re-tweet, then instantly delete, Donald Trump’s online campaign manager Dan Scavino. .............


The Trump bots pushed "Reno" to trend when they were claiming the beating victim was an assassin. This capture shows the pattern, partial faces in all the fake accounts that forgot to add the link to their identical post:



pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
18. Heat Street is the SOLE source for this and is the basis for all the other stories
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:38 AM
Nov 2016

This has to be counted as not credible unless and until it is corroborated by a reputable source.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
20. Louise Mensch is the author of the story, and the new news is just the FISA warrant.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:42 AM
Nov 2016

The rest we knew about and this fits the rest of the story.

Did you think the FBI would sweep the Trump secret Russia server evidence under a rug somewhere and not pursue it?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
22. The warrant "news" is uncorroborated
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:49 AM
Nov 2016

If it's accurate, it will be reported by other indepedent sources. So far, that hasn't happened.

It doesn't matter what I think--it's what can be substantiated by journalists.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
26. But the journalist has done due diliigence and has intelligence sources.
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 08:52 AM
Nov 2016

That's why it is a breaking story. Are you trying to infer that she is lying?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
29. I'm not inferring anything, but my own due diligence for credibility...
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:00 AM
Nov 2016

requires corroboration of the report. It has been out for some time now, with nothing to validate it.

I'm not saying it's a lie. It could be true. But so far, it's unsubstantiated.

Response to Coyotl (Original post)

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
35. FBI Complaint Filed Against Rudy Giuliani for Knowledge of Russian Hacks
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:13 AM
Nov 2016
FBI Complaint Filed Against Rudy Giuliani for Knowledge of Russian Hacks

FBI Complaint Filed Against Rudy Giuliani for Knowledge of Russian Hacks
Janet Shan on November 4, 2016

The complaint was filed by the Democratic Coalition Against Trump on Friday.

DCAT said in a news release, “In July, Giuliani said that Russia has the 33,000 emails deleted from Clinton’s private email server, going on to say that he does “cybersecurity for a living” so it’s a subject he knows according to a Politico article. Giuliani then stated, “The Russians have those emails, they’ve had them for some time.””

“Rudy Giuliani stated that he knew the Russians had hacked into and stole property that belonged to Secretary Clinton, it doesn’t get much more clear-cut than that,” said Scott Dworkin, Senior Advisor to the Coalition.

It’s not surprising that someone so close to Trump’s campaign would have knowledge of the attacks perpetrated at the hand of a foreign government.”

Read the complaint filed with the FBI against Giuliani: ..........

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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
41. Harry Reid makes most serious accusation of the campaign: Comey covering up Trump–Russia connection
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 09:43 AM
Nov 2016
Harry Reid makes most serious accusation of the campaign: Comey covering up Trump–Russia connection
By Mark Sumner Monday Oct 31, 2016 · 6:03 AM PDT

Harry Reid wrote a scathing letter to FBI Director James Comey, warning Comey that he may have broken the law.

“I am writing to inform you that my office has determined that these actions may violate the Hatch Act, which bars FBI officials from using their official authority to influence an election. Through your partisan actions, you may have broken the law.”

Which is a remarkable enough. But it’s far from the biggest charge in Reid’s letter.

“In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government -- a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity. The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.”

Harry Reid is saying that the FBI not only knows of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, but that the FBI is deliberately shielding this information, while misdirecting public attention toward the email ‘scandal’ without any valid information.

If Reid is right, then James Comey is guilty of something that goes far beyond just using his office to provide a competitive advantage to a candidate. Comey is using the full weight of the FBI to swing the election to a man he knows is in service to a foreign power. ...........
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
42. Top House Dems Seek FBI Investigation of Possible Trump Connections to Cyber Attacks
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:02 AM
Nov 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141562580Source: House Oversight Dems

Serious questions have been raised.

Reps. Elijah E. Cummings, John Conyers, Jr., Elliot L. Engel, and Bennie G. Thompson, the Ranking Members of the House Committees on Oversight and Government Reform, Judiciary, Foreign Affairs, and Homeland Security, sent a detailed letter to FBI Director James Comey requesting that the FBI assess whether connections between Trump campaign officials and Russian interests may have contributed to cyber attacks against the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in order to interfere with the U.S. presidential election.

“Serious questions have been raised about overt and covert actions by Trump campaign officials on behalf of Russian interests,” the Ranking Members wrote. “It is critical for the American public to know whether those actions may have directly caused or indirectly motivated attacks against Democratic institutions and our fundamental election process.”
 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
43. Donald Trump will finally have to pay the piper. He has exposed himself and I hope he gets his
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:04 AM
Nov 2016

just desserts.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
46. Clinton aide links Trump campaign to Russian email hacking
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:29 AM
Nov 2016

from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141594920

Source: The Associated Press

By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY and JULIE PACE
Oct. 12, 2016 4:10 AM EDT

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. (AP) — Hillary Clinton's top adviser said the FBI is investigating Russia's possible role in hacking thousands of his personal emails, an intrusion he said Donald Trump's campaign may have been aware of in advance.

If true, the assertion from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta would amount to an extraordinary link between Russia and an American presidential campaign. Podesta said the alleged ties could be driven either by Trump's policy positions, which at times echo the Kremlin, or the Republican's "deep engagement and ties with Russian interests in his business affairs."

To Podesta, the central figure in the swirling controversy is longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone, who has said he has been in touch with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Podesta also raised as evidence an August tweet in which Stone said Podesta's "time in the barrel" was coming. The tweet was sent shortly after WikiLeaks published scores of hacked emails from other Democratic officials.

"I think it's a reasonable assumption, or at least a reasonable conclusion, that Mr. Stone and the Trump campaign had advance warning about what Assange was going to do," Podesta told reporters aboard the Clinton campaign plane. Podesta acknowledged the evidence was "circumstantial."


Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/88ac9159e5c449f599e0949c3cbb8034/clinton-aide-links-trump-campaign-russian-email-hacking

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
47. Czech Police Arrest Russian Suspected of Hacking U.S. Targets
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:32 AM
Nov 2016

from: http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10141601641

Source: Bloomberg October 19, 2016 — 4:30 AM EDT

Czech police arrested a Russian citizen suspected by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of hacking targets in the U.S. and officials are considering his extradition.

Officers alerted by a so-called “Red Notice” from Interpol detained the man at a hotel in the capital, Czech police said in a statement on their website published late on Tuesday. The man, whom officials didn’t name, had been moving around the European Union state in a luxury car with his girlfriend, it said. The Prague city court ordered the suspect to remain in custody as authorities decide on whether or not to extradite him to the U.S., according to the statement.

“The suspect was so surprised by the police action that he put up no resistance,” police said in the statement. “Immediately after the detention, the man exhibited signs of collapse and police had to provide first aid and, in the end, he was hospitalized.”

The arrest follows accusations from President Barack Obama’s administration that Russia’s government is involved with hackers targeting U.S. targets, and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has blamed President Vladimir Putin for leaks that have hit her campaign. The Russian leader has repudiated the charges, as “hysteria” and said Obama’s government wants to distract the attention of Americans from the substance of the hacked material.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-19/czech-police-arrest-russian-suspected-of-hacking-u-s-targets-iugnski3
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
48. Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:36 AM
Nov 2016

Last edited Tue Nov 8, 2016, 11:46 AM - Edit history (1)

from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141612269

Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?
Source: Slate

In late July, one of these scientists—who asked to be referred to as Tea Leaves, a pseudonym that would protect his relationship with the networks and banks that employ him to sift their data—found what looked like malware emanating from Russia. The destination domain had Trump in its name, which of course attracted Tea Leaves’ attention. But his discovery of the data was pure happenstance—a surprising needle in a large haystack of DNS lookups on his screen. “I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way,” he wrote in his notes. He couldn’t quite figure it out at first. But what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization on Fifth Avenue.

Read more: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html


 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
50. A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:43 AM
Nov 2016
A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump
David CornOct. 31, 2016 6:52 PM

On Friday, FBI Director James Comey set off a political blast when he informed congressional leaders that the bureau had stumbled across emails that might be pertinent to its completed inquiry into Hillary Clinton's handling of emails when she was secretary of state. The Clinton campaign and others criticized Comey for intervening in a presidential campaign by breaking with Justice Department tradition and revealing information about an investigation—information that was vague and perhaps ultimately irrelevant—so close to Election Day. On Sunday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid upped the ante. He sent Comey a fiery letter saying the FBI chief may have broken the law and pointed to a potentially greater controversy: "In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government…The public has a right to know this information."

Reid's missive set off a burst of speculation on Twitter and elsewhere. What was he referring to regarding the Republican presidential nominee? At the end of August, Reid had written to Comey and demanded an investigation of the "connections between the Russian government and Donald Trump's presidential campaign," and in that letter he indirectly referred to Carter Page, an American businessman cited by Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers, who had financial ties to Russia and had recently visited Moscow. Last month, Yahoo News reported that US intelligence officials were probing the links between Page and senior Russian officials. (Page has called accusations against him "garbage.&quot On Monday, NBC News reported that the FBI has mounted a preliminary inquiry into the foreign business ties of Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign chief. But Reid's recent note hinted at more than the Page or Manafort affairs. And a former senior intelligence officer for a Western country who specialized in Russian counterintelligence tells Mother Jones that in recent months he provided the bureau with memos, based on his recent interactions with Russian sources, contending the Russian government has for years tried to co-opt and assist Trump—and that the FBI requested more information from him.

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Blanks

(4,835 posts)
52. In order for the healing to begin...
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 10:55 AM
Nov 2016

We must move past this sort of thing.

Obviously, if the election does not go the way it is expected to go, this is something that should be pursued.

However, just like the folks who think Bush and Cheney should be in jail, it doesn't move us forward to hope that the opposition party continue to stay in the news.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
58. Feds investigate Trump campaign manager Manafort's firm as part of Ukraine probe
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 11:51 AM
Nov 2016

from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141554710

Washington (CNN)FBI and Justice Department prosecutors are conducting an investigation into possible US ties to alleged corruption of the former pro-Russian president of Ukraine, including the work of Paul Manafort's firm, according to multiple US law enforcement officials.

The investigation is broad and is looking into whether US companies and the financial system were used to aid alleged corruption by the party of former president Viktor Yanukovych.

Manafort, who resigned as chairman of Donald Trump's campaign Friday, has not been the focus of the probe, according to the law enforcement officials. The investigation is ongoing and prosecutors haven't ruled anything out, the officials said. ......

Anti-corruption investigators in Ukraine have alleged Yanukovych and members of his party ran a corrupt regime. He fled to Russia following a public uprising in 2014.

The FBI, Justice Department and Manafort declined to comment. A Washington attorney who represents Manafort and Yanukovych didn't respond to a request for comment.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/politics/paul-manafort-donald-trump-ukraine/index.html

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
59. Watergate 2.0: DNC Told FBI It Found Evidence Its HQ Was Bugged
Tue Nov 8, 2016, 12:01 PM
Nov 2016

from: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028272628

Exclusive: The Democratic National Committee Has Told the FBI It Found Evidence Its HQ Was Bugged

In an episode reminiscent of Watergate, the Democratic Party recently informed the FBI that it had collected evidence suggesting its Washington headquarters had been bugged, according to two Democratic National Committee officials who asked not to be named.

In September, according to these sources, the DNC hired a firm to conduct an electronic sweep of its offices. After Russian hackers had penetrated its email system and those of other Democratic targets, DNC officials believed it was prudent to scrutinize their offices. This examination found nothing unusual.

In late October, after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a new set of hidden-camera videos targeting Democrats, interim party chairwoman Donna Brazile ordered up another sweep..... Republican foes might have infiltrated the DNC offices, where volunteers were reporting to work on phone banks and other election activities. ....

The second sweep, according to the Democratic officials, found a radio signal near the chairman's office that indicated there might be a listening device outside the office. "We were told that this was something that could pick up calls from cellphones," a DNC official says. "The guys who did the sweep said it was a strong indication." No device was recovered. No possible culprits were identified.

The DNC sent a report with the technical details to the FBI .....


 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
65. What an odd coincidence. Russia and servers and Trump and DeVos
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 03:55 PM
Dec 2016

What an odd coincidence. Russia and servers and Trump and DeVos
dKos: by bently Dec 01, 2016

.... a small amount of this unusual data exchange involved a server owned by Spectrum Health in Michigan. While one could build a tentative narrative about a hidden exchange between a Trump company and a Russian bank, what in the heck was a Michigan health care system doing in the mix? It made no sense .............

... Spectrum Health is connected to our newly named Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. Her husband is chairman of the board. A children’s hospital in the Spectrum system is named after her mother-in-law. Suddenly another dot connected and a tiny whiff of a conspiracy theory began percolating in my mind.

I’m not a conspiracy theory buff. I’ve never believed in one of them, even the more plausible, once even more plausible information came out to rebut it. So I’m sure there are plenty of ways that this could turn out to be one big implausible coincidence.

But here’s the thing. It doesn’t have to be that Trump himself or Betsy DeVos or even Putin’s friend Pyotr Aven of Alfa bank knew anything about these servers or what they were doing. These extraordinarily wealthy beings have hoards of underlings, sycophants and manager-types .........
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
68. Maddow Show: Senators seek to declassify info on Russia role in US election
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:31 AM
Dec 2016
Joy Reid ‏@JoyAnnReid 2 hours ago Manhattan, NY
.@McFaul on @maddow just now: White House avoided Russian intereference talk so as not to tilt the election. Wow.


The Rachel Maddow Show 12/1/16 - - - Senators seek to declassify info on Russia role in US election
Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia, talks with Rachel Maddow about a new request by Democratic senators to President Barack Obama asking for the release of more information about Russia's role in the U.S. election. VIDEO: Duration: 7:23

C_U_L8R

(45,674 posts)
71. Isn't the NSA scooping up everything between Trump and Russia??
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

Curious what's happening over there... are they laughing their butts off or what?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
79. Yes, the metadata was used to discover the Trump secret server.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:06 PM
Dec 2016

One plausible reason why we are not getting to see any of the evidence would be a criminal probe in progress.

WhiteTara

(30,150 posts)
74. This is a Murdock site
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 01:05 PM
Dec 2016
http://variety.com/2016/digital/global/news-corp-conservative-website-heat-street-1201708107/

Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Sets Up Conservative Website Heat Street

Website is led by Louise Mensch, left, who is married to Metallica manager Peter Mensch, right

Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. is planning to launch Heat Street, a libertarian website that will serve a right-of-center audience in the U.S. and the U.K. It will be led by Louise Mensch, a former Conservative Party Member of Parliament in the U.K, and Noah Kotch, a former TV producer for NBC and ABC.

Mensch, who now lives in New York, said in a tweet that the site will be somewhere where “disagreement is encouraged.” Investigative journalist Miles Goslett, whose scoops have included reports on the Jimmy Savile sex-abuse scandal and the controversy surrounding children’s charity Kids Company, has been appointed Heat Street’s U.K. editor.
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
81. Could this be related
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:16 PM
Dec 2016

to what Reid just said on CNN about the "connection" the Trump election team had with the Russians?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
83. There is more to this story than people realize. Manafort has run campaigns over there.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 08:27 PM
Dec 2016

Manafort departed the Trump campaign (at least publicly) on account of his previous connections, not?

We know the hackers used a server in Russia. Didn't a server in Russia send the hacked material to Wikileaks? We know the investigation of the DNC hack led to discovering Trump's secret server connection to an IP in Russia called Alfa Bank. Maybe Putin will tell us where that server connected. I assume the US intelligence community is in the dark on that part of the story. Putin might have Donnie by the .....

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