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UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:19 PM Mar 2016

How big do Sanders wins have to be to overtake Hillary in the delegate lead?

From what I have heard its not just wins that Bernie needs but OVERWHELMING wins in order to catch Hillary Clinton in the delegate lead. So is there any place that has put together a realistic map of the remaining primaries and caucuses to show what he has to do to catch up? Is there a certain number that he needs to keep Hillary under? What are the chances he catches her? And not just hope and wishful thinking, but the real chances he catches her and then could make a case for superdelegates switching.

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How big do Sanders wins have to be to overtake Hillary in the delegate lead? (Original Post) UMTerp01 Mar 2016 OP
Yuuuge! bigwillq Mar 2016 #1
He can't do it.... FarPoint Mar 2016 #2
Proportional voting makes it virtually impossible Kaleva Mar 2016 #3
It's significant, but not impossible. revbones Mar 2016 #4
You forgot unifying and focusing on the GE redstateblues Mar 2016 #11
Wait, what? revbones Mar 2016 #12
We can make informed predictions. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #31
This big. H2O Man Mar 2016 #5
I think about 58% in every remaining state. RandySF Mar 2016 #6
About 58% wisteria Mar 2016 #23
Realistically he would need to win states he is not favored to win by big margins. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #7
Clinton leads Sanders 1-0... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #8
How clever; I sure that changed a lot of minds brooklynite Mar 2016 #10
it amused some of us, for sure. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #19
If his national numbers continue to climb steadily, he'll be at 65% by convention time. reformist2 Mar 2016 #9
At this point national numbers don't matter. State by state delegates are what matters redstateblues Mar 2016 #15
A rising tide will solve all Bernie's delegate problems. reformist2 Mar 2016 #18
And after Hillary is elected in November cosmicone Mar 2016 #22
be careful you might run out of breath with all that laughing.. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #26
No ... I pace myself cosmicone Mar 2016 #27
sure doesn't look like it bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #28
Sanders needs to run every state left at around 60% Tarc Mar 2016 #13
Thank you for confirming Uponthegears Mar 2016 #14
Any candidate that doesn't back Israel is toast redstateblues Mar 2016 #16
Is that little gem Uponthegears Mar 2016 #17
The question is how much? I think there's room for debate on that. reformist2 Mar 2016 #20
He only needs one win AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #21
Is that all you have left to hope for? RandySF Mar 2016 #24
Well, no AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #25
Results... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #29
Interesting AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #32
He is down approx 300 delegates. jillan Mar 2016 #30

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
2. He can't do it....
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:23 PM
Mar 2016

The Democratic Party and voters/ delegates will not give him anything close to what he would need. It's almost over now...

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
4. It's significant, but not impossible.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:29 PM
Mar 2016

Otherwise, why would there be such a fervor to tell him to drop out after ~50% of the voting? Logic would seem to say that

a) in the second half it could be possible to get just as far ahead and Hillary is now and tie
b) possibly get farther ahead than Hillary is now
c) lose
d) be the only candidate if she is indicted or suffers some fallout from the email scandal.

Anyone saying anything is definite is just lying. Polls may indicate things will go one way, and maybe they will. Truth is we can't predict the future.




redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
11. You forgot unifying and focusing on the GE
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:37 PM
Mar 2016

No matter-Let's go all the way- Hillary will win and Bernie will hopefully campaign against Trump. That will be the true test of Bernie

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
12. Wait, what?
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

I don't get the unifying and focusing on the GE part of your statement, or how it pertains to my comment.

Also, maybe he does endorse her - god that would be a hard pill to swallow after all her lies during this campaign. It won't affect my vote. I'm not a cult member. I vote Bernie because of his policies and positions, not because of what he tells me to do.




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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
31. We can make informed predictions.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

We know that Clinton does best in larger, more diverse states. We know that Sanders does best in smaller, less diverse states. That's a pattern, and I see no reason to believe that pattern will get flipped upside down. Given that and Clinton's 300+ delegate lead, it's virtually impossible for Sanders to win the nomination.

Request after request has been made for someone to use one of the delegate calculators to demonstrate a realistic path to 2026 for Sanders. As far as I know, those requests have never been answered. There's a reason for that.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Clinton leads Sanders 1-0...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

In FBI investigations. She's probably more worried about superlawyers than superdelegates.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
27. No ... I pace myself
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:06 AM
Mar 2016

There is always another laughable post coming from Bernie supporters!

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
13. Sanders needs to run every state left at around 60%
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

Which would only put him up around a +80-90 or so.

As soon as you start swapping out those 60% with real numbers...30% in KY, 40% in AZ and NY, and a few others, Clinton is right back on top.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
14. Thank you for confirming
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

what we all know after Secretary Clinton's AIPAC speech . . . Hillary can care less about what a majority of Democratic primary voters in a majority of states in which a majority of voters reside think about her.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
17. Is that little gem
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:48 PM
Mar 2016

from the same playbook as "Any candidate who doesn't accept corporate dollars is toast?"

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
20. The question is how much? I think there's room for debate on that.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:18 PM
Mar 2016

On this issue, Hillary looks ridiculous as usual. She goes way overboard to please whatever group she's in front of that day. And because she panders so much, no one really believes her.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
21. He only needs one win
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:46 PM
Mar 2016

and that's for the FBI to recommend an indictment before the convention, a prospect that grows more and more likely by the day.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
25. Well, no
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:01 AM
Mar 2016

We can always hope that Hillary supporters sober up enough to recognize that they're driving us all off a cliff before it's too late.

But I'll take an indictment if that's the way it comes. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, they say.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
29. Results...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:16 AM
Mar 2016

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AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
32. Interesting
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:22 AM
Mar 2016

So some Hillary fan tried to bait me, and failed at it due to too many people having common sense?

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