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InsultComicDog

(1,209 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:13 PM Nov 2012

Interest in UFOs apparently declining

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1906-unidentified-flying-obscurity.html



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According to Wood, his organization’s open UFO investigations have dropped 96% over the past 25 years. This despite the fact that millions of people walk around every day with point-and-shoot cameras built into the phones they carry in their pockets and purses. If a flying saucer from Zeta Reticuli were to zoom past the White House, it’s a good bet there would be crystal clear, 1080p video posted to YouTube within minutes. And it’s an even better bet that at least one of the comments will simply read, “Meh.”

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Interest in UFOs apparently declining (Original Post) InsultComicDog Nov 2012 OP
Meh... uriel1972 Nov 2012 #1
still plenty of crazy out there InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #2
"David Clark, UFO adviser to Britain’s National Archives" MicaelS Nov 2012 #3
yeah, he exists InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #4
Guess I jumped to a conclusion. MicaelS Nov 2012 #5
UFO invasions are long term periodic. The term of art is the "flap." dimbear Nov 2012 #6
UFOs are so 1990s. We're all into zombies now. Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #7
Back to the '50's!!!!! nt uriel1972 Nov 2012 #8
We’re in a post-flap era now, I guess. frogmarch Nov 2012 #9
About time staffjam Dec 2012 #10

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
1. Meh...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 02:33 AM
Nov 2012

No, seriously. Perhaps the time has passed for the UFO craze. Can't say I'm too upset by it's apparent demise. Or is it that our conspiracy is finally bearing fruit? Have we really convinced them that there are no aliens after all? BWAHAHAHAHA!

InsultComicDog

(1,209 posts)
2. still plenty of crazy out there
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 03:10 AM
Nov 2012

but it is interesting to me that the presence of so many camera-equipped phones is already affecting people's perceptions of certain phenomena.

I think there are more skeptical folks than ever - or at least more skeptical than they used to be - and that is a good thing.

InsultComicDog

(1,209 posts)
4. yeah, he exists
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 12:58 PM
Nov 2012
http://drdavidclarke.co.uk/

Is UFOlogy dead or alive? I predict ASSAP may be posing the same question in 2022 but as far I’m concerned the subject remains interesting as an example of living myth. The question ‘do aliens exist’ is actually nothing to do with ‘do UFOs exist’. Of course UFOs exist, in that people see unidentified things in the sky. Their stories and interpretations of what they have seen remain interesting for a whole series of reasons, none of which have any bearing on the existence of extraterrestrials. The bottom line is that UFOs = aliens is a dead end.


So without delving too deeply, he gives the impression that he is approaching the subject as a folklorist rather than a believer.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
5. Guess I jumped to a conclusion.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:35 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks for enlightening me.

My argument is actually far more nuanced. UFOs are a modern myth but a myth is simply an explanatory system of belief to which people turn to explain phenomena they don’t understand. Journalists habitually equate myth with falsity, but that’s not the original meaning of the word.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
6. UFO invasions are long term periodic. The term of art is the "flap."
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:07 PM
Nov 2012

I'm not counting them out, especially in the third world.

frogmarch

(12,226 posts)
9. We’re in a post-flap era now, I guess.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:30 PM
Nov 2012

UFOs (strange objects seen in the sky) have interested people for a very long time, and will probably continue to do so.

I thought this was pretty interesting:

UFOs in the 19th Century

In the 19th century, accounts of UFOs took on a more believable tone.

As day dawned June 1, 1853, students at Burritt College in Tennessee noticed two luminous, unusual objects just to the north of the rising sun. One looked like a "small new moon," the other a "large star." The first one slowly grew smaller until it was no longer visible, but the second grew larger and assumed a globular shape. (Probably the objects were moving in a direct line to and from the witnesses or remaining stationary but altering their luminosity.) Professor A. C. Carnes, who interviewed the students and reported their sighting to Scientific American, wrote, "The first then became visible again, and increased rapidly in size, while the other diminished, and the two spots kept changing thus for about half an hour. There was considerable wind at the time, and light fleecy clouds passed by, showing the lights to be confined to one place."

Carnes speculated that "electricity" might be responsible for the phenomena. Scientific American believed this was "certainly" not the case; "possibly," the cause was "distant clouds of moisture." As explanations go, this was no more compelling than electricity. It would not be the last time a report and an explanation would make a poor match.

Unspectacular though it was, the event was certainly a UFO sighting, the type of sighting that could easily occur today. It represented a new phenomenon astronomers and lay observers were starting to notice with greater frequency in the Earth's atmosphere. And some of these sights were startling indeed.

On July 13, 1860, a pale blue light engulfed the city of Wilmington, Delaware. Residents looked up into the evening sky to see its source: a 200-foot-long something streaking along on a level course 100 feet above. Trailing behind it at 100-foot intervals cruised three "very red and glowing balls." A fourth abruptly joined the other three after shooting out from the rear of the main object, which was "giving off sparkles after the manner of a rocket." The lead object turned toward the southeast, passed over the Delaware River, and then headed straight east until lost from view. The incident -- reported in the Wilmington Tribune, July 30, 1860 -- lasted one minute.

During the 1850s and 1860s in Nebraska, settlers viewed some rather unnerving phenomena. Were they luminous "serpents"? Apparently not, but instead elongated mechanical structures. A Nebraska folk ballad reported one such unusual sighting:

Twas on a dark night in '66 When we was layin' steel We seen a flyin' engine Without no wing or wheel It came a-roarin' in the sky With lights along the side And scales like a serpent's hide.

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But in 1896 events turned up a notch: The world experienced its first great explosion of sightings of unidentified flying objects. The beginning of the UFO era can be dated from this year. Although sightings of UFOs had occurred in earlier decades, they were sporadic and apparently rare. Also, these earlier sightings did not come in the huge concentrations ("waves" in the lingo of ufologists, "flaps" to the U.S. Air Force) that characterize much of the UFO phenomenon between the 1890s and the 1990s.

More: http://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ufo-history4.htm


Anyone see Cowboys & Aliens ? I thought it was quite good. Well, it was sure entertaining, anyway.

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