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Most non-religious people wouldn't have a problem ... (Original Post) ItsjustMe Mar 2022 OP
KNR niyad Mar 2022 #1
My aunt said "Religion should be like your underwear, personal and private." SharonAnn Mar 2022 #25
Some people equate their Christian god with morality Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #2
Prayer: The Original Lottery chwaliszewski Mar 2022 #3
There's some chance of actually winning in the lottery. plimsoll Mar 2022 #4
WHOA!!! Colbert gets the Quote of the Week! calimary Mar 2022 #5
That last one x infinity. n/t TygrBright Mar 2022 #6
I don't have religion but I have faith Marthe48 Mar 2022 #7
While I don't buy the whole God thing, as I'm a Humanist. multigraincracker Mar 2022 #13
I have a lot of friends at 2 local UU churches Marthe48 Mar 2022 #15
Say a prayer in one hand and wish in the other and see what comes true. Red Raider 85 Mar 2022 #22
As I said Marthe48 Mar 2022 #24
The perfect business dupagelib Mar 2022 #8
Ding! Ding! Ding! GB_RN Mar 2022 #9
Thank you, ItsjustMe. Dr. T Mar 2022 #10
This is so good. Really. liberalla Mar 2022 #11
Jesus had two Dads and he turned out OK. Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #12
Wasn't Eve a multigraincracker Mar 2022 #14
Good one! keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #17
Then God gives us 1 in 2,000 births as multigraincracker Mar 2022 #23
Hypocrisy and the practicing religious hypocrites Roc2020 Mar 2022 #16
Freedom of religion... For some more than others. keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #18
Shouldn't we pretend Jesus said stuff about gays and abortion? IronLionZion Mar 2022 #19
I don't need religion because I have a conscience. OMGWTF Mar 2022 #20
Why no source code, so to speak? Red Raider 85 Mar 2022 #21
thank you Skittles Mar 2022 #26
"Praise be unto He." Pinback Mar 2022 #27

Farmer-Rick

(11,407 posts)
2. Some people equate their Christian god with morality
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 08:20 AM
Mar 2022

Yet, there is so much murder, war, sex....all kinds of sex....in it that red states would ban it if they didn't know about Bibles.

And these Christians ignore the love thy neighbor, don't be eat shrimp or wear mixed fabrics parts. But they are happy with the 10 commandments, that Jesus is murdered and ignores blatant and obvious slavery and infanticide.

So what's so moral about their god?

Marthe48

(19,023 posts)
7. I don't have religion but I have faith
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 08:55 AM
Mar 2022

The last few times I've been inside a church has been for funerals, weddings and other social rituals.

A comedian once wondered shy you have to go to church every week, thought that after 2 or 3 times, you should get it.

But church is a place of social interaction. You go to a church hoping to find like-minded people, be part of a segment of your community. Unfortunately, too many people think the person in the pulpit is not just a spokesman for the Lord, but like the Pope, Christ in the flesh on Earth. And infallible.

I went to church when I was a kid. I identify as Society of Friends, but also remeber I learned how to play shuffleboard in the basement. I attended some services at a Baptist church, before and after the philosphy went from helping your neighbor, to assuring us that God wanted us to be successful and if only you follow Him, you will get the most cows. With Biblical quotes to back up the new philosphy of God as capitalist. Most churches now promise affluence rather than being a conduit for good works. And the best cons in the pulpits are very good at lining their pockets and hanging on to the alms.

Years ago, my nephews were all interested in satan worship and the dark side. I knew that trying to talk them out of going that way wouldn't sway them, so I thought if I adhered to light and goodness, I'd be an example for them. I have come to realize that it is a lot easier to do the wrong thing than to do the right thing, but after 30 some years, it has gotten easier.

I don't have many conservatives in my life that I talk to, but I realized that it would be easier for them to come toward me than for me to go toward them. I am not right or wrong. I am trying to live my own life without harming others and if I go toward them, I am surrendering to the dark side.

In all, I hope that praying will send healing energy to those who need it. Even if I recently have doubts that a Supreme Entity, God hears my entreaties, I hope that my personal mindfulness on a daily basis helps me be a positive in the world, not a negative.

multigraincracker

(34,076 posts)
13. While I don't buy the whole God thing, as I'm a Humanist.
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 09:22 AM
Mar 2022

I attend a UU church that is made up of like minded folks. There are many Liberal churches that I respect, including the Quaker Church.
Religion is not a black and white issue. Its all gray, some do better than others.
For me it is just an interesting subject of study. I don't think ideas, like this is some how a Christian Nation doesn't hold water.

Marthe48

(19,023 posts)
15. I have a lot of friends at 2 local UU churches
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 09:38 AM
Mar 2022

No, religion is not a black and white issue, although the religious bigots are doing their best to blacken it.

When I was a teen, my grandmother bought a set of self-learning books. She really minded her short education, even if 8th grade was pretty common in her day. I ended up with her books, including this self-learning set. I started reading the volume about Literature. The books are basically set up to tell you what to focus on, and what to read for. This book said that the Old Testament had some of the oldest examples of Western literature in existence. I had always had trouble reading the Bible, but reading it as literature instead of a religious text, helped me dive into it and read with better understanding.

I don't doubt that I will live my whole life questing. All of us who think twice will.

Happy Hump Day-less boring than Monday, less exciting than Friday

Red Raider 85

(124 posts)
22. Say a prayer in one hand and wish in the other and see what comes true.
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 10:32 AM
Mar 2022

Say a prayer in one hand and wish in the other and see which one comes true. Nothing fails like prayer.

Marthe48

(19,023 posts)
24. As I said
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 11:26 AM
Mar 2022

Sending healing energy keeps me mindful. In my experience wishes and prayers are 6 of one and 1/2 dozen of another :/

dupagelib

(162 posts)
8. The perfect business
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 09:00 AM
Mar 2022

They sell a product, salvation, which costs them nothing. And no customers return to complain they didn't get what they paid for.

Dr. T

(113 posts)
10. Thank you, ItsjustMe.
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 09:15 AM
Mar 2022

I often feel as though I'm the only person who thinks as your post says. I swallow and pretend I didn't hear it when a so-called Christian goes off like a verbal diarrhea bomb. Your post lets me know that I'm not alone.

IronLionZion

(46,976 posts)
19. Shouldn't we pretend Jesus said stuff about gays and abortion?
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 10:22 AM
Mar 2022

Especially the part where God appointed people to be judge, jury, and executioner for whatever anyone feels is sinful.

But mostly we need to keep pretending that sinful Trump is some sort of evangelical hero who has totally read the Bible and doesn't just use it for pandering photo ops.

Red Raider 85

(124 posts)
21. Why no source code, so to speak?
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 10:28 AM
Mar 2022

You would think if Jesus actually existed and had something important to say, he would’ve written it down.

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