Atheists & Agnostics
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(2,310 posts)Interestingly enough, satan per se doesn't really figure much in the Old Testament. Some Christian theologians see him as the serpent in the Garden of Eden, yet curiously enough, most renditions of said snake were likely depictions of Lilith, who was sometimes depicted as a half-woman/half-snake Lamia, and snakes were a frequent rendition of Middle Eastern Earth (Chthonic) goddesses. Outside of Genesis, the Devil was almost non-existent and was usually considered the Lord of the Djinn in the most recent of the older books. Exodus has Baelzebub (Lord of Lies, though this was later conflated with the Lord of the Flies (a pun in English and Hebrew)).
In the New Testament the word Satan was used frequently, but the term likely derived from the early Hebrew for advocate or lawyer. In this respect, Satan was the voice of secular reason, in opposition to the message of messianic faith. While it's difficult to determine what the figure of Christ actually said (the earliest accounts were written some 200 years after he died), Satan was evil because he undermined faith, not because he actually performed antisocial acts. It was only later, as Christianity became more polarized (and more state-sanctioned) that Satan became the embodiment of all evil. Note also that the Fall of Lucifer from the heavens post-dated Christianity by several hundred years, and was primarily an invention of Rabbinical clerics involved with the Kaballah. It's also worth noting that the Phoenician Ashtoreth, the Navigator Goddess, was known as the Morning Star (Lucifer is Latin for Bearer of Light), which strengthens the argument made several times by different scholars that Christianity was almost certainly not an extension of Judaism, but was instead Phoenician in origin.
So, yes, the Devil has definitely received a bum rap over the years.
localroger
(3,706 posts)And it depicts God and Satan chatting like old friends and making a friendly bet which God then seeks to resolve. Which is not inconsistent with the idea of Satan being kind of a lawyerly consistency checker that God created to keep himself straight, rather like the accountant who manages a person's finances.
There are also passages in the Apocrypha (the four books found in the Catholic Bible but not in the Protestant version) which mention multiple "Satans" as if this is a class of being rather than an individual. That's REALLY consistent with Satan being like a program that runs on your mainframe computer making sure all the other programs are following the rules and not attempting to hack the system.
Metaphorical
(2,310 posts)what you're talking about are daemon processes.