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Just wondering (Original Post) Brainstormy Dec 2017 OP
"Christian" and "feminist" are words that are defined a lot of different ways by different people Binkie The Clown Dec 2017 #1
I hear that, but Brainstormy Dec 2017 #4
Release your mind to more productive endeavors (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2017 #2
with all due respect, WTF Brainstormy Dec 2017 #8
I meant no disrespect PJMcK Dec 2017 #12
nah, there are protestant sects that are very egalitarian. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #3
OK. Hit me with one. Brainstormy Dec 2017 #5
oh lets start with the unitarians Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #6
well, you have to admit that Brainstormy Dec 2017 #9
You asked for one and I gave you four. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #11
No. elleng Dec 2017 #7
I always wonder about... uriel1972 Dec 2017 #10

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
1. "Christian" and "feminist" are words that are defined a lot of different ways by different people
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 05:45 PM
Dec 2017

I'm sure some would define "Christian" so as to exclude "feminists", while others would define "feminist" to exclude "Christian", and other still would define both to be inclusive of the other. So, does "Christian" exclude "feminist"? I would say it depends on one's agenda as reflected by the way they define those two words.

Brainstormy

(2,433 posts)
4. I hear that, but
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:30 PM
Dec 2017

it sounds like you've confirmed my position. Given the misogyny in the Bible, to say nothing of the canonical scriptures in other religions, is it possible to support the autonomy, egalitarianism, etc., of women, and still be "Christian."?

Brainstormy

(2,433 posts)
8. with all due respect, WTF
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 07:24 PM
Dec 2017

DOES THAT MEAN? Obviously you don't think I asked a legitimate question. You're free to ignore it, but I had a legitimate inquiry.

PJMcK

(22,991 posts)
12. I meant no disrespect
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:00 AM
Dec 2017

Your question doesn't appear to have an answer. As a former Christian and an enlightened atheist, I suggest that trying to square anything from the Bible can be a fool's errand. This is especially the case with modernity.

That's all. I hope you have a great weekend.

Voltaire2

(14,835 posts)
3. nah, there are protestant sects that are very egalitarian.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 05:47 PM
Dec 2017

It really depends on the flavor of christian.

Brainstormy

(2,433 posts)
5. OK. Hit me with one.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:31 PM
Dec 2017

Any one, that doesn't support Biblical teaching/attitudes about women.

Voltaire2

(14,835 posts)
6. oh lets start with the unitarians
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 06:47 PM
Dec 2017

but you will probably object that they are sort of out there on their own, so then there are the Quakers, the United Methodist Churches and the Episcopalians (USA). They are all Christian Egalitarians.

Brainstormy

(2,433 posts)
9. well, you have to admit that
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 07:27 PM
Dec 2017

most "Christians" wouldn't acknowledge Unitarians as being Christian. Doesn't
that put us back at square one?

Voltaire2

(14,835 posts)
11. You asked for one and I gave you four.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 09:11 PM
Dec 2017

And it is irrelevant what “most Christians” think.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
10. I always wonder about...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 08:37 PM
Dec 2017

Women and LGBTQI people trying to change the RCC from within. Good luck I say, but I don't hold out much hope.

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