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Related: About this forumMy favorite discussion of morality and why it needs no god
Notice the beauty of Matt's definition of morality, and the objective assessments that can come out of it once we agree on its basis.
The morals=god argument is laid bare in just a few minutes
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My favorite discussion of morality and why it needs no god (Original Post)
ProfessorPlum
Aug 2017
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Hieronymus
(6,039 posts)1. I've said this for years, thanks.
Duppers
(28,260 posts)2. Matt's amazing.
Began listening to him years ago.
Thank you for posting this one especially since this is often the first, or one of the first, the non-thinkers throw at us atheists.
ProfessorPlum
(11,385 posts)5. I agree
I've been a big fan for a long time.
And, this issue of morality and god is a very common one, as you say. It's almost the first thing out of peoples' mouths when they hear someone is an atheist.
TlalocW
(15,631 posts)3. What I get out of it and believe
Is that systems of morality are subjective, but then the moral decisions in such a system must then be objective.
TlalocW
ProfessorPlum
(11,385 posts)4. right, or maybe rather
that we can judge them objectively within the framework that we choose. That's kind of a cool way to think about it - we choose what is important to us, and make our assessments accordingly.