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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Sun May 7, 2017, 12:31 AM May 2017

BBC: Stephen Fry faces blasphemy probe after God comments

Stephen Fry faces blasphemy probe after God
6 May 2017

Police in the Republic of Ireland have launched an investigation after a viewer claimed comments made by Stephen Fry on a TV show were blasphemous.


According to a report in the Irish Independent newspaper, no publicised cases of blasphemy have been brought before the courts since the law was introduced in 2009 and a source said it was "highly unlikely" that a prosecution against Fry would take place.


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Appearing on The Meaning of Life, hosted by Gay Byrne, in February 2015, Fry had been asked what he might say to God at the gates of heaven.

Fry said: "How dare you create a world in which there is such misery? It's not our fault? It's not right. It's utterly, utterly evil. Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid god who creates a world which is so full of injustice and pain?"

Police in the Republic of Ireland have launched an investigation after a viewer claimed comments made by Stephen Fry on a TV show were blasphemous.

...

The Irish Independent reported a member of the public made a complaint to police in Ennis in the same month the programme was broadcast. He was recently contacted by a detective to say they were looking into his complaint.

The viewer was not said to be offended himself but believed Fry's comments qualified as blasphemy under the law, which carries a maximum penalty of a fine of 25,000 euros (£22,000).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39830447



The video has been posted here several times and it's worth watching if you haven't seen it yet:



Personally I think Stephen deserves an award and a payout of 25,000 euros for nailing it.
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BBC: Stephen Fry faces blasphemy probe after God comments (Original Post) beam me up scottie May 2017 OP
Time for The Spanish Inquisition! Lint Head May 2017 #1
Thanks, I love that skit! beam me up scottie May 2017 #2
This is so great! I wish Mel Brookes would make more movies. Lint Head May 2017 #4
Me too! beam me up scottie May 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author SergeStorms May 2017 #16
Cardinal Fang........ SergeStorms May 2017 #17
What the ??? progressoid May 2017 #3
catholic church and taliban/ISIS have some things in common nt msongs May 2017 #5
more than some... dhill926 May 2017 #7
Exactly what I was going to say. n/t trotsky May 2017 #23
Right? beam me up scottie May 2017 #6
I wouldn't worry about this. OnDoutside May 2017 #9
Yeah, like the article stated, it does seem "highly unlikely" that prosecution against Fry progressoid May 2017 #21
I reckon it's some political opponent acting the maggot. OnDoutside May 2017 #22
It looks like many opposition groups are hoping the Frye case Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #8
I wouldn't mind if it turned into a contest. beam me up scottie May 2017 #10
😈😈😈 Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #12
"God" save us from religion. What utter stupidity! n/t Binkie The Clown May 2017 #11
Time to invoke the wrath of Cthulhu. beam me up scottie May 2017 #13
No, an inquisition is EXACTLY what's needed here. Let his accuser face him... DRoseDARs May 2017 #14
Well said! beam me up scottie May 2017 #15
talibornagain. pansypoo53219 May 2017 #18
Fundamentalists want to control our speech and thought. beam me up scottie May 2017 #19
"The fact that others mock them and their sacred cows absolutely INFURIATES them." trotsky May 2017 #24
Exactly! beam me up scottie May 2017 #25
As someone smarter than me (admittedly a low bar) once said, gtar100 May 2017 #31
Precisely! trotsky May 2017 #35
My prediction is that Ireland will toss it's blasphemy laws Voltaire2 May 2017 #26
I hope you're right. beam me up scottie May 2017 #28
Who is the injured party in a blasphemy case? stopbush May 2017 #27
Ideas don't need protection, people do. beam me up scottie May 2017 #29
My friend's 19 year old grandson just diagnosed with bone cancer.. mountain grammy May 2017 #30
That's terrible. I'm so sorry for your friend and her grandson. beam me up scottie May 2017 #32
His mother is a bit nuts mountain grammy May 2017 #33
I agree, do it now! beam me up scottie May 2017 #34

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
4. This is so great! I wish Mel Brookes would make more movies.
Sun May 7, 2017, 12:52 AM
May 2017

At least direct if he's retired from acting.

Response to Lint Head (Reply #1)

SergeStorms

(19,322 posts)
17. Cardinal Fang........
Sun May 7, 2017, 03:46 AM
May 2017

fetch.......the comfy chair!

We all used to gather at the local bar on Saturday nights to watch Monty Python on PBS (WXXI Rochester, NY) in the early 70s. It aired at 9:00 PM and it was something we all looked forward to. Ah.......those were the days of my misspent youth! We had quite simpler pleasures back then.

progressoid

(50,784 posts)
3. What the ???
Sun May 7, 2017, 12:49 AM
May 2017
The law prohibits people from publishing or uttering "matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion".


I'm ...

OnDoutside

(20,672 posts)
9. I wouldn't worry about this.
Sun May 7, 2017, 01:41 AM
May 2017

When our Irish Constitution was enacted in 1937, we were still a priest ridden society, and one part of it was a Blasphemy law that only applied to offending a Christian God. In a hamfisted reaction to being told that this was inequitable towards other religions, the incompetent Fianna Fail Government minister brought in an updated law until a Referendum could be held to remove this altogether. This was despite being advised to just go ahead with the Referendum to clear this all up.

Between all our economic problems, other issues like this were left in the background. Obviously someone is trying to prompt the current government into taking on a Referendum to sort this out. After all, Stephen's interview with Uncle Gaybo was nearly 2 years ago.

progressoid

(50,784 posts)
21. Yeah, like the article stated, it does seem "highly unlikely" that prosecution against Fry
Sun May 7, 2017, 08:09 AM
May 2017

would take place.

It's just bizarre that this comes up now.

OnDoutside

(20,672 posts)
22. I reckon it's some political opponent acting the maggot.
Sun May 7, 2017, 10:31 AM
May 2017

Dermot Aherne was the idiot who brought this in, back in 2009, when everyone was telling him not to.

Jno_Gilmor_

(127 posts)
8. It looks like many opposition groups are hoping the Frye case
Sun May 7, 2017, 01:38 AM
May 2017

overturns this abomination of a law. Lets hope they are right

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
10. I wouldn't mind if it turned into a contest.
Sun May 7, 2017, 01:56 AM
May 2017

I'm sure Stephen would be happy to provide them with another entry.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
14. No, an inquisition is EXACTLY what's needed here. Let his accuser face him...
Sun May 7, 2017, 03:21 AM
May 2017

...and when it is found that this is a ridiculous charge without merit, his accuser should face death by stoning as commanded by his capricious, mean-minded, stupid god.

Oh, and "The viewer was not said to be offended himself but believed Fry's comments qualified as blasphemy under the law"

Are you shitting me? ARE YOU SHITTING ME? Wrap around the arse of everyone in Ireland, fuckwit.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. Fundamentalists want to control our speech and thought.
Sun May 7, 2017, 05:20 AM
May 2017

The fact that others mock them and their sacred cows absolutely INFURIATES them.

It's actually fun to poke them and watch them rage on and on.


trotsky

(49,533 posts)
24. "The fact that others mock them and their sacred cows absolutely INFURIATES them."
Mon May 8, 2017, 08:40 AM
May 2017

This is it in a nutshell. Conservative ones want to kill or jail heretics. Liberals just want to shame them into submission. But it's the same reaction - drastic opposition to alternative thought.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
25. Exactly!
Mon May 8, 2017, 05:36 PM
May 2017

Thought police cannot stand the idea that someone rejects their ideology so they try to bully us into silence. Then there are those who constantly try to tone police minorities: Pipe down or you might offend someone!

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
31. As someone smarter than me (admittedly a low bar) once said,
Mon May 8, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

If it's the truth, then it can stand up to scrutiny. No need to prop it up with "faith" or threats of violence. You can turn away from it, deny it, criticize it, crush anyone who stands by it. But if it's true it will be there whether you like it or not.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
28. I hope you're right.
Mon May 8, 2017, 05:43 PM
May 2017

Ireland is taking a lot of heat about this, Stephen Fry is very popular and the backlash is growing.

mountain grammy

(27,356 posts)
30. My friend's 19 year old grandson just diagnosed with bone cancer..
Mon May 8, 2017, 05:50 PM
May 2017

and I remembered and have been thinking of this interview a lot, since there's a lot of praying going on to the holy being, who, I guess for some reason, thought this kid should get bone cancer so everyone will pray for healing, what a crock.

Meantime, the grandson is an atheist, told me and his grandmother years ago. As always, I hope for the best. strong kid, might be one of the lucky ones.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
32. That's terrible. I'm so sorry for your friend and her grandson.
Mon May 8, 2017, 06:05 PM
May 2017

I hope his friends and family respect his atheism and don't use this as an opportunity to proselytize. Predatory religious types often try to take advantage of vulnerable people, they stalked and harassed my ex-brother in law when he was hospitalized. They literally camped out in his room trying to brainwash him while he was medicated.

mountain grammy

(27,356 posts)
33. His mother is a bit nuts
Mon May 8, 2017, 07:02 PM
May 2017

but my friend and the rest of the close family are non practicing anythings, so good he doesn't have to deal with that crap. The prayers are from the multitudes of friends and family who lurk around the edges.

Man, there's a lot of religion out there.

I have another friend in the last stages of cancer. She's an atheist, always very active in town stuff, so all the local believers are praying big time, but she's gonna die and soon. We've been planning a big event for her birthday in June, whether she's here or not because she'll "be here in spirit" they say. Hogwash, I say, she doesn't believe that crap. Do it now!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
34. I agree, do it now!
Mon May 8, 2017, 07:06 PM
May 2017

Having it now will comfort her when she needs it the most. Some people have a 'funeral' for themselves when they find out they're dying, it's a way for people to tell their loved one how they feel while there's still time. Funerals are for the grieving, better to have a celebration of her life so she can enjoy it too.

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