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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 07:19 AM Sep 2016

Old man in funny hat blindly unaware of his own church's history

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-killing-in-the-name-of-god-is-satanic-20867/

Referencing the recent murder of French priest Fr. Jacques Hamel, Pope Francis said the persecution of Christians happening today, under any form, is a work of Satan.

“This cruelty that asks for apostasy, let’s say the word, is satanic,” the Pope said in a homily Sept. 14.

“Today in the church there are more Christian martyrs than in the first times. Today there are Christians who are assassinated, tortured, jailed, their throats are cut because they don’t deny Jesus Christ,” Francis stated.


How many people were tortured, jailed, or killed when the RCC reigned supreme, Frankie? Was your church controlled by Satan back then?
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Old man in funny hat blindly unaware of his own church's history (Original Post) trotsky Sep 2016 OP
I'll save our friendly neighborhood apologists the time and effort. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2016 #1
By jove, I think you've got it! n/t trotsky Sep 2016 #3
Not satan nil desperandum Sep 2016 #2
Satan? He means the trickster-entity from the OT who talked God into torturing Job? DetlefK Sep 2016 #4
Satan asked a reasonable question... n t uriel1972 Sep 2016 #5
I went for coffee awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #6
Einstein's brain wore makeup? Freelancer Sep 2016 #7
Yes, Frankie is calling the early RCC church satanic RussBLib Sep 2016 #8

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
1. I'll save our friendly neighborhood apologists the time and effort.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:44 AM
Sep 2016

The Catholic church didn't have the authority to kill anyone. It was secular governments doing the executing, remember? They were enforcing secular laws based on the positions of the church, which is totes different because reasons.

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
2. Not satan
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:17 AM
Sep 2016

but certainly power hungry demagogues who were only too happy to use the ignorant masses to further their hold on power.

Control is always just about control. I'm not ever certain those old religious leaders believed half their own bullshit, much the same today without the mass murder on the christian side(a few singular acts of horror here and there notwithstanding), although there does seem to be some interest on the islamist side to step up their level of violence.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
6. I went for coffee
Fri Sep 16, 2016, 08:41 PM
Sep 2016

and someone had Ancient Aliens on. They positing that the makeup of Einstein's brain allowed it to receive transmissions from afar, explaining how he put out so much in such a short amount of time. So, long story short- I thought I had heard the most ridiculous thing I would hear today. I was wrong.

RussBLib

(9,693 posts)
8. Yes, Frankie is calling the early RCC church satanic
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 03:20 PM
Sep 2016

I see no other way to look at it. They were "killing in the name of god" too.

So, hey Frankie, how about molesting little boys? Is that satanic, too? How about hiding the molestation?

How about female genital mutilation?

It's such a cop-out; total abdication of personal responsibility, but what else can they do?

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