Atheists & Agnostics
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From the HBO documentary "Questioning Darwin".
I haven't seen it but if this is a representation, I don't think I need to subject myself to it.
Tobin S.
(10,420 posts)They've also probably never read Darwin or read anything about Darwin that wasn't given to them by other Christians.
If you are a creationist, your life is largely lived in fantasy land.
Iggo
(48,463 posts)I think they don't read a lot of things.
he is still alive and obviously knows nothing of Charles Darwin.
Oneironaut
(5,800 posts)They're afraid that their religious values may be disproven if they learn about evolution. They're afraid of the cognitive dissonance of holding onto beliefs they know cannot be true.
Iggo
(48,463 posts)elleng
(136,690 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)God is overweight?????
Hey creationists.... just because you don't get it, doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't.
DetlefK
(16,484 posts)1.
There is only God and God's will.
Evidence existing outside of that, independent of God's will, would mean that there is something that is not subject to God's will. And that violates a basic tenet of religion.
As such, there is no evidence independent from God that could be used as a basis for a rational argument about God. You cannot debate whether God exists when the premise of all assumptions is that God exists.
2.
Science treats empirical fact as dominant over theory. For religion and magic, it's the other way round. If your experiment says one thing and the book says another thing, then there must be something wrong with your experiment.
3.
Just as religion is philosophically incompatible with the existence of independent evidence, IMO science is incompatible with a concept such as God.
Science deals with repeatable, objective experiments, but God is unique and can change his behavior at will. It is impossible to prove or disprove claims about God with experiments, because God does not meet the philosophical assumptions of the scientific method.
On the other hand... If something cannot be proven/disproven by a witness in any experiment under any circumstances, does that thing even have an attribute such as "existence" or "non-existence"?
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)"Hey, can you give me $5? I'll give you two $2s."
Estimated number who would agree to do so: zero.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)No, dumbass, I'm saying he doesn't exist. Oh, that smug look on his face when he said that. It was like "let's see you top that brilliance, idiot"
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I saw a similar look on a co-workers face when he said "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" I just walked out of the room before my IQ dropped. It is moments like this that I wish I would just memorize the game show scene from Billy Madison.
rexcat
(3,622 posts)obviously critical thinking is not a part of their being. Where I live I am surrounded by people like this so not a big surprise here.
Freelancer
(2,107 posts)Selling cans of spray paint at the entrance of a museum -- what could possibly go wrong?
Fundamentalists of every ilk are using the devices and communications networks created by people with knowledge to disseminate ignorance. It's damaging to our prospects as a species, IMO. If the world ending asteroid (that almost certainly IS out there) shows up and we've dragged our feet arguing about whether Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs, I'd be pissed at fundamentalists, for sure, but even more so at all the technological enabling that allowed their ideas to propagate.
End of this week's post-middle-aged rant.