Now I've heard it all.

[Curmudgeoness]

Well, not really, because every day, I hear more incredible beliefs. But this one is so bad that it is scary to think that someone said this seriously.

Listening the talk radio, and they were talking about man-made climate change. And how it is impossible for man to change the climate.

A man called in to enlighten all of us listening. The scientists are all wrong. In fact, the only science that we need is in the Bible. (Yes, he said that.) We should be teaching science from the Bible, not from science books written by man. If you read the Bible, you will find that God promised us that he would not destroy the earth again after the Great Flood.

I am sure that you will find many other scientific gems in the Bible. The Bronze Age/Iron Age was a time of much greater scientific understanding than we have today. Things like that women are unclean and cannot be in the company of men during their menstrual cycles. Or that shellfish and cloven hoofed animals should not be eaten.

I think we need a list of all the scientific facts in the Bible. I wish this caller would have expanded on all the facts in there. Just out of curiosity.

[kdmorris]

1. Well, in fairness, his god isn't destroying the Earth

His stupid friends and their support of policies and politicians that destroy the Earth are doing a fine job all by themselves... no mythical being needed.

[Curmudgeoness]

3. Tell me that story

is a couple of thousand years, when they have incorporated climate change into their myths.

But, yes, I guess that god isn't the destroyer this time...unless we can blame him for changes in weather patterns. Oh, wait, isn't that how the flood happened?

[Adsos Letter]

2. According to the Bible the rainbow is a sign..

...of no more floods wiping out almost all of human life on earth.

Fire next time.

[Curmudgeoness]

4. Oh,

so is an overheated planet close enough to "fire" that we can say that the Bible had it right? This seems to be the way things go with stories in the Bible.

And if that is the case, are these people just fucking with us? Do they WANT it to happen so that the Rapture will come quicker and they can be with God, fighting the good war? (Same as why the Zionists want Israel to gain all of their historic land?)

[Adsos Letter]

5. I don't have answers to any of your questions.

I was only taking the opportunity to point out that the guy who said we should teach a Bible based science curriculum was wrong on what the Bible says about the whole earth destruction thing.

Either 1 or 2 Peter says the sky will roll up like a scroll, and the elements melt with fire. (Paraphrasing here, and probably badly).

Also...I just realized this was posted in Atheists & Agnostics. I didn't intend to intrude uninvited. My apologies.

[Curmudgeoness]

6. Stop in anytime.

We are not very picky about who posts here.

You are right about the issues you bring up, and that is all we want here...conversation and dealing in facts. Your facts are solid.

[kdmorris]

7. No intrusion detected...

The visit was nice

[dixiegrrrrl]

21. Late reply, but the answer is yes, "they" seriously do want the Rapture to happen ASAP.

The very fervent fundies literally believe that going to heaven is more real than life on earth, and their job is to be among the Raptured to help their God restore Heaven on Earth.

"Rapture comes, we go to heaven, God kills the non-devote people on the Earth, turns it into paradise and we go back."

I have listened to this crap from people down here in the South.
It is frightening how much they believe it.

[Curmudgeoness]

22. Won't they be disappointed?

Wasted their life in pursuit of something that doesn't exist....and no do over.

Too bad they have to hurt other people in their desire to "help God" get that Rapture thing going. As if God, if he did exist, would need help from them.

[progressoid]

8. I hate driving in certain areas in the midwest.

There are stretches of road where all I can get is right wing country stations or religious stations. Hate it if I forget to bring along an audio book or my own music - I'm stuck with that crap. Sometimes it's OK for a laugh, but I can't stand it for more than a few minutes.

My new (used) car has Sirus XM. Kind of expensive but I might have to give it a try.

[Curmudgeoness]

10. Or you could just not drive in the Midwest.

Or, listen to talk radio while you are there. Always good for a few laughs and it keeps your blood pressure high enough that you will not fall asleep at the wheel.

[mountain grammy]

12. Worth every penny, to me anyway!

[Gore1FL]

25. The trick with with sirius is call them, and then suggest you would like it but can't afford it

Sometimes they cut deals.

[onager]

9. Hear/read that crap every week.

Now that I'm living in South Catatonia. In letters to the editors of the local rags, we usually get a twofer - if some savant is going to lecture on the impossibility of climate change, they usually throw in a free bonus rant about how evolution is bogus and completely unscientific. It was all a plot by Darwin and Karl Marx to make Baby Jesus cry. Or something like that.

One of these recent rants was written by a guy who also claimed he was a scientist. He didn't specify, so I have no clue what kind of "scientist" he might be. Of course, LTTEs are a lot like the internet that way - people can claim to be anything.

[Curmudgeoness]

11. Well, there are a few "scientists" who swing that way.

Oil company geologists often come to mind. Or maybe the "lawn care specialist" who is a "professional botanist" who mows lawns. I had a run in with one of those...him-that tree is a Sumac. Me-no, it is an Ailianthus. Him-I am a botanist, I know trees (while he is working mowing a field). Me-I am a biologist, and I'll bet you $100. Him-Oh.

I feel for you living in SC, and obviously not in an enlightened area.

[mountain grammy]

13. Scientific facts in the bible?

[Brainstormy]

14. My favorite bit of "science" in the Bible

is that overlooked bit in Genesis where Jacob breeds striped goats by making them look at striped sticks. (Gregor Mendel, eat your heart out.) Another one of those stories you never heard in Sunday School.

[Curmudgeoness]

15. Oh, that is a new one on me!!!

Too bad that Genesis is just too long for me to bother reading again.

So....how did the leopard get his spots?

[DetlefK]

16. I dare him to live his daily life with only biblical science.

Go on!

Do it!

What could possibly go wrong!

Only use scientific knowledge from the Bible and none of the knowledge that was derived via the scientific tradition that was invented in the 17th century by Bacon, Newton, Descartes and Leibniz.

[Curmudgeoness]

17. That really made me laugh.

And the best part is that he will no longer be able to call in to radio stations.

[Major Nikon]

18. Sure, we just need to get all of our science from a book with talking donkeys

[Curmudgeoness]

19. There is a scientific explanation for that,

I am sure.

[Major Nikon]

20. This scientificy diagram proves it

[Cartoonist]

23. Joshua

That's where the science of the Bible proves that the sun orbits the earth.

I wonder if that guy thinks Copernicus was a tool of Satan.

[Curmudgeoness]

24. Then it must be true.

We are wrong, that Bible is right. End of discussion.

And speaking of tools, I can't believe there are people living today who believe this shit.