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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:53 PM Mar 2016

Creationist Ken Ham Thinks Atheists Oppose His Noah’s Ark Theme Park Because We’re Anti-Christian

Creationist Ken Ham Thinks Atheists Oppose His Noah’s Ark Theme Park Because We’re Anti-Christian
March 15, 2016 by: Hemant Mehta

Ken Ham knows why atheist bloggers are so angry about Ark Encounter, his Noah’s Ark theme park set to open this summer.

It’s not because we think they’re getting a tax break despite their preferential Christian hiring. It’s not because they’re promoting nonsense that has no basis in science. And it’s not because the surrounding community is going to be screwed over as a result of the theme park.

It’s because we hate Christianity.



Arkophobia hit an all-time high the week of January 25. That’s when a federal judge issued a major ruling that gave a huge win to Answers in Genesis in our religious freedom lawsuit against the State of Kentucky and the actions of the previous governor, Steve Beshear.

Well, that federal decision was too much for the secularist/atheist bloggers. That’s when Arkophobia was at its height. Many secularists were already livid that a Christian organization is building such a massive tourist facility that will have a huge impact in the culture as it proclaims a Christian message! They just can’t stand it! Their hatred against Christianity was so clear after the ruling.


Secularists oppose the Ark because they are afraid of the Ark’s goal: to proclaim the everlasting gospel.
It’s all just part of his persecution fantasy.
We’re not afraid of Christians preaching. If that were true, we’d be protesting the existence of every church in America. We don’t.

And I don’t think anyone believes the Ark will “have a huge impact in the culture.” It’ll be entertaining for a couple of days when it opens, it’s be ridiculed for weeks as visitors point out all the “facts” that are contradicted by what we know about science, and then it’ll be forgotten by the general public.

Sure, some fundamentalists will continue to visit it. But the novelty will eventually wear off.

No one has “Arkophobia.”

The only thing we’re scared of is that some children will grow up with a warped view of what science is (and how it works) because they’ve been lied to by Ham. It doesn’t matter if it’s through his books, the Creation Museum, or Ark Encounter. It’s all the same bullshit story, and those kids deserve to know that just about every real, in-the-field working scientist don’t accept a word of what Ham is selling

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/03/15/creationist-ken-ham-thinks-atheists-oppose-his-noahs-ark-theme-park-because-were-anti-christian


Any time Christian bigots and other oppressed majorities get pushback on their agenda they label it a phobia. By redefining criticism as bigotry they are able to portray themselves as the victims.

Arkophobia is about as genuine as theophobia and heterophobia - more words invented by morons who think Christians are a persecuted minority in this country.
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Creationist Ken Ham Thinks Atheists Oppose His Noah’s Ark Theme Park Because We’re Anti-Christian (Original Post) beam me up scottie Mar 2016 OP
ah, Ken Ham, the thinking person's favourite moron! mr blur Mar 2016 #1
I love those cards. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #3
Then of course, there's the moron's favorite moron skepticscott Mar 2016 #8
Ken Ham thinks his god came to earth masquerading as his own son... Iggo Mar 2016 #2
LOL! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #4
So... progressoid Mar 2016 #9
That's easy: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12
Come now, you are missing the point entirely whatthehey Mar 2016 #13
You're right of course. It's all clear now. Iggo Mar 2016 #14
Well, speaking strictly for myself, Curmudgeoness Mar 2016 #5
Do what I do when I encounter an asshole, tell them to have a nice day now! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #6
I am not that evolved yet. Curmudgeoness Mar 2016 #7
I am not that evolved yet. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #15
Don't be silly. We hate all religions equally! DetlefK Mar 2016 #10
Indeed. Many people think anti-theists hate religious people. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #11
If you are a church, you shouldn't be able to get insurance Freelancer Mar 2016 #16
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
8. Then of course, there's the moron's favorite moron
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

who we don't have to look that far for.

Iggo

(48,464 posts)
2. Ken Ham thinks his god came to earth masquerading as his own son...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:50 PM
Mar 2016

...begged himself not to kill himself, was refused by himself, caused himself to be crucified unto death, and came back to life three days later.

So we've established that Ken Ham will believe anything.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
4. LOL!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

Jesus rode a dinosaur, it's true! I saw it at the Creation Museum! And baby dinos were on the ark:

progressoid

(50,784 posts)
9. So...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:26 AM
Mar 2016

If the dinosaurs survived the flood. What actually killed them?

Oh, silly me. I just realized it was either God or Satan that done it.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
13. Come now, you are missing the point entirely
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:00 AM
Mar 2016

He had to do that to save creatures he made from a Hell he made for them, which he desperately, and omnipotently, wants to do, but can't unless they are nice to him in absentia (even though he's omnipresent), and for which purpose he needs us to live on Earth for a few decades before the trillions of aeons in Heaven or Hell to see if we will love him enough, even though he is transcendent, atemporal and omniscient.

It makes much more sense when you think about it that way.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. Well, speaking strictly for myself,
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

I am learning to hate some Christians, so he may not be entirely wrong...and it is his sort of Christians who disgust me.

He just doesn't get it that we don't give a shit what he does with his own money, or the money of his followers. Too bad that he isn't willing to pay for this himself, as well as any taxes that anyone else pays. Too bad that he doesn't see how full of shit he is too.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. Do what I do when I encounter an asshole, tell them to have a nice day now!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:51 PM
Mar 2016

Ham is a typical fundy, he wants to have it both ways, all the privileges of being an educational institution with none of the responsibilities.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
11. Indeed. Many people think anti-theists hate religious people.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:57 AM
Mar 2016

Some theists and apologists deliberately perpetuate that stereotype because it allows them to portray themselves as victims.

I like Rational Wiki's definition:

Antitheism, also known pejoratively as "militant atheism" (despite having nothing to do with militancy) is the belief that theism and religion are harmful to society and people, and that even if theistic beliefs were true, they would be undesirable. Antitheism, which is often characterized as outspoken opposition to theism and religion, asserts that religious and especially theistic beliefs are harmful and should be discarded in favor of humanism, rationalism, science and other alternatives.

Antitheistic positions are often erroneously confused for (or strawmanned into) rallying for various persecutory conspiracies against the faithful, including "seeking out and destroying all religion", "wanting to make faith illegal", "forcing the religion of atheism onto everyone" (a suggestion that is not even wrong), and numerous other unfounded fears from the faithful and their apologists.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Antitheism

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
16. If you are a church, you shouldn't be able to get insurance
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

When an insurance company pays a claim to a church, it pays from a pool of money collected from believers and non-believers alike. Taking money from non believers and handing it to a church is an act of tacit support. Giving support to a religion without people's knowledge is probably illegal.

There's probably something in the boilerplate insurance contract that's meant to insulate the company from legal exposure to this problem. Still, they could be required to disclose just where collected premium money is going. Then you'd have baptists not wanting to give their insurance money to the Catholics, who don't want to prop up the snake handlers, and so on. That could make the business of religion a little more complicated ... and expensive.

Maybe it wouldn't make a difference, but it's an approach to go after these theist businesses with that I don't recall being pursued before.

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