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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:32 PM Mar 2016

Two groups of kids refuse to join in school prayer during lunch at Hollister Missouri High School





Background:

Hollister schools told to halt organized prayer, restrict ministers' access to students

It started when a Hollister parent saw a video, widely shared on social media, showing a local youth minister leading students in a midday prayer at the middle school.

The alarmed parent reached out to the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which sent a letter to Hollister Superintendent Brian Wilson. The Feb. 10 letter stated the organized prayer was an "egregious violation of the First Amendment and must be stopped immediately."

"The video depicts an adult leading the entire lunchroom in a prayer with all of the students surrounding him in a circle," Patrick Elliott, the foundation's attorney, wrote in the letter. "The parent's child also reports that students were directed in a similar prayer all of last week and this week as well during the seventh-grade lunch."

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Two groups of kids refuse to join in school prayer during lunch at Hollister Missouri High School (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 OP
If only these Christians would just heed their own damn bible. trotsky Mar 2016 #1
And that's from the New Testament Canadian Interloper Mar 2016 #9
"...your Father, who sees what is done in secret..." Iggo Mar 2016 #14
Looks like 4 of them opted not to have their food get cold Warpy Mar 2016 #2
Looks like a group of 3 on the lower right kdmorris Mar 2016 #4
I thought the prayer in school thing was settled over 50 years ago. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #3
The only thing that you want around children less than a youth minister... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #5
Amen Fumesucker Mar 2016 #6
"apparently unaware that it was against policy" progressoid Mar 2016 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Mar 2016 #8
Democracy a joke when it exempts the largest voting blocs - religions es35 Mar 2016 #10
HHHOOORRRAAAYYY for the brave kids!! They are the leaders of the next generation!! es35 Mar 2016 #11
They appear to be different schools muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 #12
I hope the Satanic Temple Visits soon! n/t Gore1FL Mar 2016 #13

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
1. If only these Christians would just heed their own damn bible.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016

Matthew 6:5-6 - "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

 
9. And that's from the New Testament
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:56 AM
Mar 2016

You know, that part of the Bible these (ahem!) "Christians" base their religion on.

Iggo

(48,464 posts)
14. "...your Father, who sees what is done in secret..."
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

He sees you when you're sleeping.

He knows when you're awake.

(Sound familiar, kids? You bet it does.)

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
2. Looks like 4 of them opted not to have their food get cold
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016

two on the far left and two on the lower right. The rest of them are watching the grease on their cafeteria food congeal while Mr God Bothererer blathers away at them. Bastards do love the sound of their own voices.

Why the fuck anybody thought this is OK is beyond me.

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
4. Looks like a group of 3 on the lower right
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016

But the point stands... that's incredibly fucked up. I would be angry.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
5. The only thing that you want around children less than a youth minister...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

is a Catholic priest.

progressoid

(50,784 posts)
7. "apparently unaware that it was against policy"
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

Against policy?

Not to mention against the law.

Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

es35

(132 posts)
10. Democracy a joke when it exempts the largest voting blocs - religions
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:26 AM
Mar 2016

How can this country work when it exempts from all its regulations and taxes the groups with the largest voting blocs - the religions. Wake up you silly foolish Americans, you're being had big time!

es35

(132 posts)
11. HHHOOORRRAAAYYY for the brave kids!! They are the leaders of the next generation!!
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:28 AM
Mar 2016

HOORRAAYYY!!!

muriel_volestrangler

(102,666 posts)
12. They appear to be different schools
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:42 PM
Mar 2016

The video is from the Hollister middle school, and the article you link to. The still picture is from what looks like a high school judging by the age of pupils, and the only place I can find it is reddit - which just claims it's "Hollister High School".

If they really are both prayers in cafeterias in separate schools in the district, then it's a pattern, and not just the one-off "a student asked him to pray" it's explained away as in the article.

Even if the repeated prayers are normally student-led, it looks incredibly intimidating - it's not just people saying 'grace' over their own food, but taking up positions around the room to surround anyone who doesn't join in. It's the first stages of a cult.

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