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DetlefK

(16,484 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:36 AM Dec 2015

Just FYI: You are a terrorist.

In Saudi-Arabia, that is.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027459994

Other acts defined as “terrorism” include: “Calling for atheist thought in any form, or calling into question the fundamentals of the Islamic religion on which this country is based,” as well as “Contact or correspondence with any groups, currents , or individuals hostile to the kingdom.”

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Just FYI: You are a terrorist. (Original Post) DetlefK Dec 2015 OP
Yes, be very afraid of me. Curmudgeoness Dec 2015 #1
and are currently chairing the Promethean Dec 2015 #2
Do I get a free balaclava for postig here, then? All the evil doers are wearing them now. Freelancer Dec 2015 #3
Saudi Arabia is not a country AlbertCat Dec 2015 #4
Much like the Mafia... onager Dec 2015 #5
Well for them that makes sense whatthehey Dec 2015 #6

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. Yes, be very afraid of me.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 03:40 PM
Dec 2015

I might make you think or something.

I still can't believe that they are "good friends" of the USA.

Freelancer

(2,107 posts)
3. Do I get a free balaclava for postig here, then? All the evil doers are wearing them now.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:45 PM
Dec 2015

Balaclavas are cool, and it's freezing here. I could use one.

onager

(9,356 posts)
5. Much like the Mafia...
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:43 AM
Dec 2015

Literally. The Saudi royal family now has about 5 or 6 thousand princes who don't have much to do.

So if you have a business, a restaurant, or a piece of land that catches the eye of a prince, he might make you an offer you can't refuse.

If you are stupid enough to refuse the offer, your property might be seized and you'll get nothing. Except possibly a jail sentence, if you're really stupid and continue protesting.

The royals also rip off some of the poorest people in the country - TCNs (Third Country Nationals). The "guest workers" who come from other countries, and get sponsored by a royal in return for a kickback of their wages. This is not done directly, but thru a Saudi labor exchange company...which will be owned by the ripping-off royal.

I saw that last one in operation myself among Filipino "guest workers" when I lived in Saudi Arabia.

Another popular money-making scheme saw some "greedy princes" expropriate land from commoners. "Generally, the intent is to resell quickly at huge markup to the government for an upcoming project." By the mid-1990s, a government program to grant land to commoners had dwindled. "Against this backdrop, royal land scams increasingly have become a point of public contention."

The cable cites a banker who claimed to have a copy of "written instructions" from one powerful royal that ordered local authorities in the Mecca area to transfer to his name a "Waqf" -- religious endowment -- of a small parcel of land that had been in the hands of one family for centuries. "The banker noted that it was the brazenness of the letter ... that was particularly egregious."

Another senior royal was famous for "throwing fences up around vast stretches of government land."

The confiscation of land extends to businesses as well, the cable notes. A prominent and wealthy Saudi businessman told the embassy that one reason rich Saudis keep so much money outside the country was to lessen the risk of 'royal expropriation.'"

Finally, royals kept the money flowing by sponsoring the residence permits of foreign workers and then requiring them to pay a monthly "fee" of between $30 and $150. "It is common for a prince to sponsor a hundred or more foreigners," the 1996 cable says.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article27585.htm


whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
6. Well for them that makes sense
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:29 AM
Dec 2015

Take away the religious underpinnings of one of the last absolute monarchies on earth and that might cause a fair amount of terror for the ruling elite when the masses start asking why...

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