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onager

(9,356 posts)
Fri May 8, 2015, 07:57 PM May 2015

Those who say 'We cannot poke fun at Islam' don't get it

Guest Post by Leo Igwe, over at B&W:

People across the world are slowly being coerced into treating Islam with ‘respect’ or, better, with fear. We are gradually getting to a point where criticising the Islamic faith is a form of death sentence.

The reason which some people give for this ugly development is that ‘Many people believe in Islam.’ They say: ‘There are over I billion muslims in the world’. And my question is: And so what? That billions of people, including children, youths, illiterates and semi illiterates, profess Islam or believe that something is true does not make it true, does it? Billions of people have held mistaken, absurd and irrational claims over the centuries and still do.


http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2015/05/guest-post-those-who-say-we-cannot-poke-fun-at-islam-dont-get-it/
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Those who say 'We cannot poke fun at Islam' don't get it (Original Post) onager May 2015 OP
It is very disheartening to me.. Tobin S. May 2015 #1
Info on the writer... onager May 2015 #3
And many of the ones who do so on DU also mock scientology and other religious lunacy. beam me up scottie May 2015 #2
Don't you know those religions are not "REAL" Religions LostOne4Ever May 2015 #5
Magical carpenter zombies are the real deal, Arugula Latte May 2015 #10
It's time for world leaders to stand up! Cartoonist May 2015 #4
I've posted this before, and I'll post it again: Binkie The Clown May 2015 #6
I was just saying the SAME thing in GD. beam me up scottie May 2015 #8
When Geller hosts a cartoon contest it's called "incitement" because...religion. AlbertCat May 2015 #11
No, you didn't. beam me up scottie May 2015 #12
I heard David Steinberg on John Fuglesang's show today.. mountain grammy May 2015 #7
Pick one: I will not mock Mohammed because... Binkie The Clown May 2015 #9
Batman says: Cartoonist May 2015 #13
But onager, you don't understand. trotsky May 2015 #14

Tobin S.

(10,420 posts)
1. It is very disheartening to me..
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:42 PM
May 2015

...to see so much of the world's population, in our advancing times, still beholden to superstition. As a non-believer in any religion, I'm in a pretty small minority on the planet as a whole. To think that there are still areas of the world where I can be executed for my beliefs is astounding given what is known to be true about the planet and the universe. It's terrible.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
2. And many of the ones who do so on DU also mock scientology and other religious lunacy.
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:52 PM
May 2015

I can't afford any more irony meters.

LostOne4Ever

(9,603 posts)
5. Don't you know those religions are not "REAL" Religions
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:35 PM
May 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Their made up bullshit is not as legitimate as the made up bullshit of the older religions....[/font]

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
10. Magical carpenter zombies are the real deal,
Sat May 9, 2015, 12:28 PM
May 2015

but not golden tablets and spaceships. Come on. That's just logic.

Cartoonist

(7,557 posts)
4. It's time for world leaders to stand up!
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:03 PM
May 2015

Enough of this bullshit. If your faith can't stand criticism, then your faith is weak and your God is an insect.
I don't mean that they should say that, exactly, but they do need to say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the freedom to believe or not believe. Laws of apostasy need to be abolished worldwide, or those countries should face sanctions.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. I've posted this before, and I'll post it again:
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:48 PM
May 2015

If Pam Geller had called her movement a religion, there are a lot of people who would call us bigots for pointing out her bullshit and accusing her of hate speech.

(For example, in every other forum where I have posted this sentiment I have been accused of being a bigot for supporting Pam Geller. I don't support Pam Geller. I never have. I never will. But as soon as you point out the special kid glove treatment that religions get, the uber-religious come unhinged and do everything they can to discredit the one doing the pointing out.)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. I was just saying the SAME thing in GD.
Fri May 8, 2015, 10:05 PM
May 2015

When Westboro Baptist tells lgbt people they deserve to get AIDS it's called free speech because ...religion.

When Geller hosts a cartoon contest it's called "incitement" because...religion.


 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
11. When Geller hosts a cartoon contest it's called "incitement" because...religion.
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:25 PM
May 2015

"When Geller hosts a cartoon contest it's called "incitement" because... one of those other Abrahamic religions that doesn't get along with the other 2 Abrahamic religions."


There fixed it for you.

If you lump all the Abrahamic god believers together (and why not...they get their "authority" from the same pace&quot you have a dreadful, disruptive, divisive, dangerous large group of people.

Hinduism and Buddhism don't seem to bother us too much over here.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
12. No, you didn't.
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:32 PM
May 2015

The people in GD who demand we respect religion don't specify.

As a matter of fact they regularly throw "non-threatening" religious beliefs into the mix and claim their very existence is a reason we should refrain from criticism.



mountain grammy

(27,358 posts)
7. I heard David Steinberg on John Fuglesang's show today..
Fri May 8, 2015, 09:55 PM
May 2015

he told the joke about the Jewish guy stranded alone on an island. He built two synagogues because he had to have a place he would never go. If there are 3 Jews, they need 4 synagogues...
I remember David Steinberg telling those jokes and my Jewish mother just laughing and laughing...

I was listening to Dean Obudallah saying the problem with the Muslim faith is no humor. I think he's got a point there.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
9. Pick one: I will not mock Mohammed because...
Fri May 8, 2015, 10:15 PM
May 2015

A) I respect him, his beliefs, and his followers.

B) I acknowledge that a significant percentage of his followers are violent and may kill me if I do.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
14. But onager, you don't understand.
Mon May 11, 2015, 09:45 AM
May 2015

Religion is special. If you can't PROVE a belief is wrong, why then it's just as likely to be right and therefore SHUT UP YOU ATHEIST.

I think I have summarized the argument.

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