Atheists & Agnostics
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We should take some text, say Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, and mark it of into short book:chapter:verse divisions just like the Bible, and when someone debates us by quoting the Bible, book, chapter and verse we can reply by quoting something relevant to our own point of view, authoritatively giving them book:chapter:verse of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland to prove our point.
The fact that most of the text is rambling nonsense shouldn't deter us, after all, we can cherry-pick the most relevant passages and bend them to our purposes just as well as the Bible-thumpers can. After all, didn't Alice herself prophesy that such a book would be written when she said "There ought to be a book written about me, that there ought!" (Second Rabbit Chapter 4, verse 9) And since Alice is eternal (II Rabbit 4:12 "'But then,' thought Alice, 'shall I NEVER get any older than I am now?") she must be the daughter of god.
As to why this particular book should be treated as a holy book, it's a mystery, and like it says in the Chronicles of the Tea Party, Chapter 7, verse 23: "Alice sighed wearily. 'I think you might do something better with the time,' she said, 'than waste it in asking riddles that have no answers.'"
Or is there another book that would make a better "Holy Scripture" for us to quote chapter and verse from? Maybe Finnegan's Wake? According to Wikipedia, Finnegan's Wake...
That sounds like a perfect religious text just waiting to be "creatively interpreted' in order to prove any point whatsoever.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(102,666 posts)Despite being written by a man who had taken holy orders (largely because that helped his university career at the time), it is free of the vomit-inducing moralising that had characterised British children's books until that point.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)The author's ability to write sentences that extend over pages is the key. Plus always in the original sacred french.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)it's got everything - based on old myths/poems, made up of different books, it's got kings, queens, magic, love, sex, betrayal, sacrifice, revenge, fighting, a holy man...
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Or perhaps something with Hobbits and a strong polarization between good an evil.
Mr.Bill
(24,846 posts)Hunter S. Thompson come to mind.
bvf
(6,604 posts)although I take your point.
deucemagnet
(4,549 posts)because I can't offer any proof that it wasn't.
onager
(9,356 posts)"Oh, you cant help that," said the Cat: "were all mad here. Im mad. Youre mad."
"How do you know Im mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldnt have come here.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)We should convene a council.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)we should take bits and pieces of many different books by different authors, and edit them to get rid of anything we object to.
I'm sure we can find an "old testament" book, say something by Charles Dickens, that can be interpreted to prophesy something that happens in a "new testament" book by a more modern author, say Kurt Vonnegut.
How's that for proof of authenticity? The Vonnegut chapter was prophesied by the much more ancient Dickens chapter. There's no way Dickens could have know about Vonnegut, except by divine revelation.
LostOne4Ever
(9,603 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)AND.... action figures!
May the Force be with you....