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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:23 AM Apr 2015

One of the Biggest Myths About Atheism, Debunked

One of the Biggest Myths About Atheism, Debunked

Is a big myth about atheism just a projection of right-wing Christian rage?
By Amanda Marcotte / AlterNet
April 20, 2015



The stereotype of the angry atheist, much like the stereotype of the angry feminist, is widespread, used by believers to stigmatize and discredit atheists. The eagerness to discredit atheists makes sense, as many of the faithful fear that arguments against the existence of the supernatural are too persuasive and so want to discourage even listening to atheists in the first place. But it’s always seemed weird to me that calling someone “angry” is supposed to be such a slam dunk insult, suggesting, as it does, that complacency is some kind of virtue.

Not that this is a new observation, of course. Greta Christina, in a post she later developed into the book, Why Are You Atheists So Angry, explained that anger in the face of injustices wrought by religion is the appropriate response. “Because anger has driven every major movement for social change in this country, and probably in the world,” she wrote. Without anger, you have complacency, which allows injustice to continue.

Atheists are well within their rights to be angry, but new research shows that the image of the forever-raging atheist is a stereotype concocted by believers, and not upheld by any real-world evidence. A recent paper published in the Journal of Psychology details how researchers reviewed seven different studies about atheists and anger. The studies showed that believers generally claim that atheists are angry. The study’s finding that believers frequently call atheists “angry” is easy to see in the real world. The world of religious media is full of examples of believers accusing atheists of being “angry.” Believers in social media love to lob that accusation, too, sharing endless memes and cartoons portraying atheists as spittle-flecked rage machines.

The thing is, when atheists are actually tested for anger, they are no more angry than anyone else. The image of the angry atheist is nothing more than a way for believers to dismiss atheists and their arguments against the existence of God.

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So the next time you're told that your anger is alienating believers, tell them to shove their complacency where the sun don't shine.

You're doing your part to fight injustice.

And smile when you say it.

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One of the Biggest Myths About Atheism, Debunked (Original Post) beam me up scottie Apr 2015 OP
Sheesh, how many times have we heard skepticscott Apr 2015 #1
Just recently Lordquinton Apr 2015 #5
Ikr? It's like she reads DU. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #6
That accusation... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #12
Angry? nil desperandum Apr 2015 #2
Charlie Hebdo is a good example of both. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #7
Same reason I smile when I say I'm a radical leftist. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #3
"I am not okay with it." beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #8
She sounds angry at god Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #4
Thank you Capt. Obvious. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #9
And he had a special bug up his ass skepticscott Apr 2015 #10
And it's tragic that he let that meteorite wipe out the second ark. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #11
If they would keep their religion... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #13
I used to be just an atheist. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #14
Yep awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #15
I've never wanted so desperately to become an ex-pat. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #18
You and me both... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #19
And it's multiplied when people skepticscott Apr 2015 #16
Well they have their priorities. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #17
^^ THIS^^ Novara Apr 2015 #23
But but but...what about those billboards? progressoid Apr 2015 #20
Well someone has to feed their persecution complex. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #21
Poor oppressed christians... AlbertCat Apr 2015 #22
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
1. Sheesh, how many times have we heard
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:44 AM
Apr 2015

over in Religion, as a commentary to some vapid Salonesque cut-and-paste, that so-and-so atheist is "hurting the movement" and alienating people by being so "angry"? And usually from people who not only can't even show that there IS a movement like the one they claim, and who wouldn't give a rat fuck about it even if they could.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
5. Just recently
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:15 PM
Apr 2015

A girl in a picture was said that she seemed angry, and that she could use prayer, from an atheist, no less (maybe agnostic, people get so bent out of shape over that, it's actually kind of offencive really)

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
12. That accusation...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:08 PM
Apr 2015

has been leveled at Dawkins and Hitchens. They just like hearing from people smarter than them.

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
2. Angry?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:18 AM
Apr 2015

Well for what it's worth atheists' rage seems a lot less physically harmful than religious rage to those who hold different views.

Religion might not have a lock on violence in response to criticism or in support of belief systems, but they have a serious lead when it comes to actual acts of violence. Religious anger is far more dangerous than atheist anger.







beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. Charlie Hebdo is a good example of both.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:16 PM
Apr 2015

Atheists get angry and draw cartoons, religionists get angry and mow cartoonists down with automatic weapons.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
3. Same reason I smile when I say I'm a radical leftist.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:37 AM
Apr 2015

I am angry. Very angry, in fact. The harm done daily by the major religions is horrifying. Even the "progressive" ones still have major issues. The Catholic Church is still driving teens to suicide, still attacking women and gender studies, still banning contraceptive use. The fundies are attempting to enslave or kill off all women. Islam still can't get along with itself in the Middle East, let alone Judaism and the others. It's nuts, it's horrible, and I am not okay with it. I'm not going to hide that.

That said, the angry atheist stereotype is definitely wrong, and needs to go away. Even if I'm pissed, I still talk to people reasonably. I'm "angry" because I speak up for myself, I say something when I disagree with religion. Hell, even the militant, firebreathing, baby-eating monsters like Dawkins and Hitchens put up with far more shit from and are far more polite to religion and the religious than I've ever seen the other way around.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. "I am not okay with it."
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:19 PM
Apr 2015

"I'm not going to hide that."

Exactly, apologists don't want to address the damage done in the name of religion, so they malign atheists who speak out.

I think it's the duty of every liberal to speak up for minorities, not dismiss their anger.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. Thank you Capt. Obvious.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:27 PM
Apr 2015


If that god existed I could never worship him.

Gets in a snit and kills every creature on the planet except for Noah's family and just two of every species.

Seriously?

Someone has serious anger management issues, and it's not the op.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
10. And he had a special bug up his ass
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:54 PM
Apr 2015

about unicorns, apparently. Whacked every one and didn't even leave a pair.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
11. And it's tragic that he let that meteorite wipe out the second ark.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:06 PM
Apr 2015

The one with the dinosaurs on it.

Can't find that cartoon...dammit.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
13. If they would keep their religion...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:10 PM
Apr 2015

out of government, maybe I wouldn't be angry. Between the erosion of women's right and the assaults on LGBT community, religion in this country is nothing but so much stench.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. I used to be just an atheist.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:15 PM
Apr 2015

But what you posted is exactly why I became an anti-theist too.

When the RCC can use its wealth and influence to restrict our rights in this country we've got a major religion problem.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. Yep
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:39 PM
Apr 2015

And we have members of the house bringing up "render unto Caesar" arguments to attack DC's birth control privacy laws. Oh, and they don't even see the irony in this that argument (Jesus saying "pay your taxes, deadbeat &quot

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
18. I've never wanted so desperately to become an ex-pat.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:13 PM
Apr 2015

If my parents had kept their villa in Brussels I would be so out of here.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
16. And it's multiplied when people
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:58 PM
Apr 2015

who profess to be "liberal" and "progressive" Christians defend and enable those infringements on the rights of a large segment of the population.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
17. Well they have their priorities.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:11 PM
Apr 2015

Smearing atheists on DU takes precedence.

The pope's homophobia and misogyny, pfft.

Dawkins is arrogant!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. Poor oppressed christians...
Sun Apr 26, 2015, 01:22 PM
Apr 2015

They're just ANGRY!




Angry that other people live on the planet.

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