What's more ridiculous, an atheist church of bacon lovers
or a virgin dinosaur in a prom dress telling us that sex is immoral unless we do it according to these directions?
A sexual act is any deliberate use of the genital sexual faculty.
Sexual acts are not exempt from the moral law. To be moral, each and every knowingly chosen sexual act must have three good fonts of morality. The intention must be good, the moral object must be good, and the good consequences must outweigh any bad consequences.
In order to have a good moral object, each and every sexual act must be marital and unitive and procreative. Each and every moral sexual act always has these three meanings: marital, unitive, procreative. The deprivation of any one or more of these meanings from the moral object causes the sexual act to be intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral.
The natural sexual act is genital-to-genital intercourse between a man and a woman. This act is unitive and procreative. Natural sexual intercourse between a husband and wife is called natural marital relations. Only natural marital relations is martial and unitive and procreative.
The use of contraception deprives the act of natural intercourse of the procreative meaning, causing the sexual act to be non-procreative. The use of contraception is intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral because it deprives sexual relations of its procreative meaning, which is required by God for sexual acts to be moral. Therefore, natural marital relations must always be open to life (not contracepted).
A non-marital sexual act is any type of sexual act outside of marriage. Acts of adultery, pre-marital sex, and masturbation are non-marital. All non-marital sexual acts are intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral because these acts lack the marital meaning, which is required by God for sexual acts to be moral.
An unnatural sexual act is any type of sexual act that is not unitive and procreative. Examples of unnatural sexual acts include oral sexual acts, anal sexual acts, and manipulative sexual acts (i.e. masturbation of self or of another). All unnatural sexual acts are intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral because these acts lack the unitive and procreative meanings, which are required by God for sexual acts to be moral. These acts are not procreative because they are not the type of act that is inherently directed at procreation. These acts are not truly unitive, even if there is a certain mere physical union of body parts, because this is not the type of sexual union intended by God for human persons. Unnatural sexual acts are not justified by being done within marriage because the moral law requires each and every sexual act to be not only marital, but also unitive and procreative.
To be moral, each and every sexual act must be marital and unitive and procreative. All non-marital sexual acts, all non-unitive sexual acts, and all non-procreative sexual acts are intrinsically evil and always gravely immoral. All such acts have an evil moral object, and so they are not justified by intention, or by circumstances, or by other acts.
Yeah, I know, no sex threads...sorry.
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A fetish is a sacred object or an object considered to have special powers, like a lucky charm.
These people think that a marriage certificate will make sex okay, will make the spouse love you, respect you, and all that. It will not do any of those things, as those are indicated by the behavior of the respective spouses.
Also they are fetishizing the lack of contraception.
And as far as....well, why are our arms long enough??? 
Blather, blather, blather.
......yawn........
Go on, keep alienating Democrats, but you do so at your own peril!
I think we ought to stop saying "Thanks, Obama" in this group.
Let's use "Thanks, atheists" instead.
Or "Thanks, trotsky".
I dare you! I double-dare you, motherfucker! Say 'unitive and procreative' one more goddamn time!"
I'm guessing since priests can't have sex they don't want those of us who can to enjoy it even a little bit without feeling incredibly guilty and ashamed.
Down here in East Jesus-stan. Local Baptist church sent out a letter announcing it would not perform gay marriage ceremonies. Not that anybody had ASKED for that or anything. So I guess that was just a pre-emptive strike, to make sure Cletus and Bubba know ahead of time they won't be getting hitched in this particular Spookery.
Then the letter got a lot more intertesting, and listed a whole bunch of Moral Failures that can get church employees terminated: drinking alcohol (my Mom said, "They'll have to fire all the Deacons, then."
Co-habiting outside of marriage. On and on and on.
The whole thing was sort of weird, so I asked my mother to translate.
Short version: some women at the church have held baby showers for UNWED!1! pregnant women, which apparently pissed off some of the more Righteous and Blessed.
Being an ignorant male, I always thought the point of a baby shower was to make sure the new baby had stuff like clothes and diapers. Not necessarily to reward that Brazen Hussy, the baby's mom.
I had some fun with the line in the letter: "We abide strictly by the moral laws of the Bible..."
Told my Mom: "They're already in trouble, since the Bible contradicts itself all over the place."
She just gave me a dirty look. As usual.
Yes, thumpers, teh evul gayz are going to force you to marry them. 
And it'll be good for the pregnant hussy to go without, that's what God wants: Punishment
How is your mom? I'm sure she's glad to have you back, even if you are a heathen.
Funny how fast we sink back into the local drama when we move home.
When I returned to Vermont they had just discovered a group of junior high girls who made a pact to get pregnant. I was 11 years old in 7th grade, can you imagine?
If you remember, getting knocked up was the WORST thing that could happen to us when we were teens, and these little idiots were making a game out of it??? 
Before you buy your house, maybe you should have a priest come over and check the place for demons, it's good to know if you have any pest problems.
Good for Chase! You should post that story as an OP!
