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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 01:45 AM Apr 2015

What Good Atheism Has Done for This Ex-Muslim?

Do yourself a favour and read the entire piece, you won't be sorry.

What Good Atheism Has Done for This Ex-Muslim?
April 17, 2015 by Kaveh Mousavi

That’s a question someone like me should ask himself once in a while. What good atheism has been to me, anyway? I’m an ex-Muslim. To me the question of atheism is never divorced from my Muslim background and my Muslim majority country.

It’s easy to take a step back and think that atheism is more a curse than a blessing. After all, atheism has brought me years and years of abuse and being the target of bigotry. I became an atheist when I was 14. As soon as I was an atheist, I was harassed at school for refusing to pray. Legally speaking I have no rights and I don’t even exist. I had to endure being the victim of people’s stereotypes about atheism, and I have always felt like an outcast. Because I’m outspokenly critical of Islam, I have been accused of Islamophobia (that is hating my own community, hating my own family, etc) by white liberal westerners, and I have been a target of Islamophobia myself.

...

Because of atheism I can support democracy, oppose theocracy, support the equal rights for women and LGBT+ people without having to hold scared a book which embodies the opposite of all these values and I do not have to resolve the mental dissonance of such an intellectual contradiction.

Because of atheism I can easily accept science and not be forced to choose between my dogma and the facts on issues such as evolution or circumcision or masturbation or abortion.

Because of atheism I can laugh at Mohammad and all else that is sacred, and save my outrage for the real injustices in the world, instead of getting angry at harmless satire targeting warlords of the past.

...

Atheism is freedom. Atheism does not equal critical thinking, or tolerance, or a truly liberated mind. But atheism is an opportunity, an option, a potential blank slate. To me atheism means that on this Saganian spec of dust we inhabit I find my own destination and I walk my own road and all my accomplishments and all my failures are ultimately my own, no idol is my god and no lord is my shepherd.

And this is something I relish, something that makes all those traumas and abuses worth it.



About Kaveh Mousavi

Kaveh Mousavi is the pseudonym of an atheist ex-Muslim living in Iran, subject to one of the world’s remaining theocracies. He is a student of English Literature, an aspiring novelist, and part-time English teacher. He is passionate about politics, video games, heavy metal music, and cinema. He was born at the tenth anniversary of the Islamic Revolution of Iran. He has ditched the Islamic part, but has kept some of the revolutionary spirit.



No words.


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What Good Atheism Has Done for This Ex-Muslim? (Original Post) beam me up scottie Apr 2015 OP
Very good. K&R. Tobin S. Apr 2015 #1
Thanks for rec'ing beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #3
I've known quite a few Muslim atheists Warpy Apr 2015 #2
His courage is inspiring. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #4
So did a lot of us Warpy Apr 2015 #5
This is a very good article, but I still think it bears saying... Silent3 Apr 2015 #6
For me as well. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #7
doesn't make much sense to me, and doesn't have good evidence supporting it. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #8
We need more atheists here in the USA BobSmith4152 Apr 2015 #9
Hi BobSmith! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #10
Wait, there's a lair? BobSmith4152 Apr 2015 #11
You must not be a True Atheist if you don;t know about the lair. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #12
Ooops. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #13
Well, I do eat baby carrots Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #15
I like Tofurkey Beer Brats. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #16
It gets you in touch with the divine ... Oh, wait ... maybe that's gas instead. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #18
Wait, what? nil desperandum Apr 2015 #19
Psst! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #20
Are you sure? nil desperandum Apr 2015 #21
Oh my dog! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #22
It's not much nil desperandum Apr 2015 #23
Brave, brilliant man... Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #14
I would love to meet him. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #17

Tobin S.

(10,420 posts)
1. Very good. K&R.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:18 AM
Apr 2015


There are a lot of controls in most societies, but you cannot control a liberated mind.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
2. I've known quite a few Muslim atheists
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 02:48 PM
Apr 2015

and one or two who moved here and converted to one of the milder forms of Christianity to please new inlaws. Culturally, they're Muslim through and through. On a person to person basis, they're like this guy.

I hope this guy never gets caught. His voice is a good one, completely non confrontational, and good at explaining why atheism can be a good path to take through the world.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
5. So did a lot of us
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 05:34 PM
Apr 2015

All it took was that first question that really pissed off everybody around us.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
6. This is a very good article, but I still think it bears saying...
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:11 PM
Apr 2015

...that, at least for me, and I suspect many other atheists, the "good" that happens or doesn't happen as a consequence of being an atheist doesn't, or shouldn't, have much bearing on whether one is an atheist.

I'm an atheist because what's generally meant by "God" doesn't make much sense to me, and doesn't have good evidence supporting it. Whether that makes me happy or sad, popular or unpopular, healthy or sick, doesn't enter into whether or not the idea of God is believable.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. For me as well.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:31 PM
Apr 2015

I never believed (or belonged to a religion) so I can only imagine how liberating it must be to shake off those restrictions.

And how different the view must be once you're free.


 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
8. doesn't make much sense to me, and doesn't have good evidence supporting it.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:58 PM
Apr 2015

This.


Reality is all there is, in the long run.

This doesn't mean we shouldn't tell ghost stories and write scifi or fantasy....or even indulge in holiday rituals that are fun and warm and fuzzy.... as long as you know they are fairytales and fiction, and reality is still there doing its thing as usual.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
10. Hi BobSmith!
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:12 PM
Apr 2015

The more the merrier!

I think there are more than people realize, it's just that many of us can't publicly come out of the closet (I'm brave on DU but irl I can't afford to be vocal).

Here's to ending anti-atheism stigma in America!


Welcome to DU and our Evil AA Lair!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. Ooops.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 06:49 PM
Apr 2015

Nope, there's no lair, no bat signal, no eac.



If there were secret handshakes, decoder rings and rubber chickens, someone would contact you within the week.

And we absolutely do not eat babies.



nil desperandum

(654 posts)
19. Wait, what?
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:15 PM
Apr 2015

No Lair? No cool signals? No secret handshakes?

What kind of outfit is this?

Oh wait, the kind where you are free from a forced belief in make believe. That's plenty good enough for me.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
20. Psst!
Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:20 PM
Apr 2015

ixnay on teh atbay ignalsay.

We don't have a mascot either. If we did it would look like this:




You can find out more details here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/123028246



 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
14. Brave, brilliant man...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:23 PM
Apr 2015

On another note, social media has been an interesting phenomenon for atheism, because you can let your lack of belief be known on various levels. For example, on Facebook you can post "Hey Guys -- I don't think a god exists!" or you can not say anything about belief or lack of belief but still "like" secular/atheist pages or post/s, or you can state your "religious beliefs" as a promotion of secularism/humanism/nature worship, etc. Point being, if someone is interested in your religion or lack religion, it's usually not hard for them to figure it out if they do a little poking around or monitoring of you on social media.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
17. I would love to meet him.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:40 PM
Apr 2015

Closeted atheists need to be careful out there, I was partially outed at work and was targeted because of it.

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