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Judi Lynn

(162,406 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 03:41 AM Dec 2020

Early humans may have survived the harsh winters by hibernating


Seasonal damage in bone fossils in Spain suggests Neanderthals and their predecessors followed the same strategy as cave bears

Robin McKie Science Editor
Sun 20 Dec 2020 05.30 EST

Bears do it. Bats do it. Even European hedgehogs do it. And now it turns out that early human beings may also have been at it. They hibernated, according to fossil experts.

Evidence from bones found at one of the world’s most important fossil sites suggests that our hominid predecessors may have dealt with extreme cold hundreds of thousands of years ago by sleeping through the winter.

The scientists argue that lesions and other signs of damage in fossilised bones of early humans are the same as those left in the bones of other animals that hibernate. These suggest that our predecessors coped with the ferocious winters at that time by slowing down their metabolisms and sleeping for months.

The conclusions are based on excavations in a cave called Sima de los Huesos – the pit of bones – at Atapuerca, near Burgos in northern Spain.

Over the past three decades, the fossilised remains of several dozen humans have been scraped from sediments found at the bottom of the vertiginous 50-foot shaft that forms the central part of the pit at Atapuerca. The cave is effectively a mass grave, say researchers who have found thousands of teeth and pieces of bone that appear to have been deliberately dumped there. These fossils date back more than 400,000 years and were probably from early Neanderthals or their predecessors.

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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/dec/20/early-humans-may-have-survived-the-harsh-winters-by-hibernating
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Early humans may have survived the harsh winters by hibernating (Original Post) Judi Lynn Dec 2020 OP
I might have that gene. safeinOhio Dec 2020 #1
You and me, too. WheelWalker Dec 2020 #2
You are not alone. True Blue American Dec 2020 #4
Wow... me, too. TrishaJ Dec 2020 #12
I think the Doctor's referr to it as Seasonal Depression. True Blue American Dec 2020 #13
Stay warm and safe! TrishaJ Dec 2020 #14
You stay safe. True Blue American Dec 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Dec 2020 #3
This tactic may work against covid. I could attend church on Sundays, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2020 #5
I went to Church twice, then everyone started showing up for the True Blue American Dec 2020 #16
I wonder if this explains Seasonal Affected Disorder nuxvomica Dec 2020 #6
Hmmmm... Ligyron Dec 2020 #9
Nah left-of-center2012 Dec 2020 #7
Yeah, I remember last winter's hibernation. jaxexpat Dec 2020 #10
. calimary Dec 2020 #11
I hibernate during the sweltering summer months in Mississippi. LuvNewcastle Dec 2020 #8

True Blue American

(18,167 posts)
4. You are not alone.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:55 AM
Dec 2020

I have always said I hibernate during the winter months since I retired. I love the changing seasons but winter rest prepares me for a gorgeous Spring! My favorite time of year.

TrishaJ

(858 posts)
12. Wow... me, too.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 07:58 AM
Dec 2020

I thought something was wrong with me for wanting to sleep in all the time during the darkness of the last couple of months. I am retired as well.

True Blue American

(18,167 posts)
13. I think the Doctor's referr to it as Seasonal Depression.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 09:47 AM
Dec 2020

I just call it common sense!

Went out this morning, finished what little I did this year, stocked up on the things I know We will be craving after Christmas excess. Even with a small immediate family we still over do.

Rain and snow expected Christmas Eve. If it gets bad we will just move the date. Nice this morning, 39.

TrishaJ

(858 posts)
14. Stay warm and safe!
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 09:55 AM
Dec 2020

Unfortunately, I live in a part of the country where ice and snow is rare. However, I am driving to North Georgia for a very small family gathering. There is a chance of the frozen stuff, but not likely.

True Blue American

(18,167 posts)
15. You stay safe.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:54 PM
Dec 2020

Georgia mainly has an ice problem but here the roads are still too warm for it to stay. Georgians are just not used to snow and ice.

You should be fine. Ours has now changed to rain and snow.

Today is the longest day of the year so we passed the hump!

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,768 posts)
5. This tactic may work against covid. I could attend church on Sundays, ...
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 05:06 AM
Dec 2020

... or I could hibernate until the afternoon.



Wake me when the virus is defeated.

True Blue American

(18,167 posts)
16. I went to Church twice, then everyone started showing up for the
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:57 PM
Dec 2020

Early morning service, several with out masks. Sure enough, someone came up with the virus.I had decided to stay home. Glad I did.

nuxvomica

(12,899 posts)
6. I wonder if this explains Seasonal Affected Disorder
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 05:27 AM
Dec 2020

What may have arisen as a survival trait can become a liability in our artificially organized world. If the time that just our modern species has been around were collapsed into 24 hours, we didn't start farming until around 10:30pm, so we may have evolved a lot a traits in conflict with civilization.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
10. Yeah, I remember last winter's hibernation.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 06:23 AM
Dec 2020

Had to get up and go on Jan 17th, then just as I was finally snoozing good, it hit me again on March 3rd. Never again with the apple juice.........

LuvNewcastle

(17,027 posts)
8. I hibernate during the sweltering summer months in Mississippi.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 05:55 AM
Dec 2020

I just turn on the A/C and stay inside, venturing out every few days to check the mail or go and pick up groceries, which I do in the early morning, before the heat really settles in. I do that from about the beginning of May until the end of September. There's still some hot weather before and after those months, but usually it isn't so brutal.

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