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Judi Lynn

(162,385 posts)
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:10 PM Mar 2018

Neanderthals Made Cave Paintings Before Modern Humans Even Reached Europe


According to new research, the oldest paintings known to man appear to be the work of Neanderthals.

Lydia Pyne 10 hours ago



Panel 78 in La Pasiega cave, which includes red horizontal and vertical lines that date to more than 64,000 years ago,
long before Homo sapiens arrived in the area (photo by C.D Standish, A.W.G. Pike and D.L. Hoffmann used with
permission)


Neanderthals have done it again. They’ve reminded us Homo sapiens that we’re not as creative, original, or special as we’ve thought for the past 150 years. Last week, archaeologists published two astonishing reports that provide the most compelling evidence to date that our evolutionary cousins not only had the cognitive wherewithal to create art — specifically cave paintings — but they also did so well before modern humans entered the European Pleistocene.

In the journal Science, an international team of archaeologists reported that three caves in southeastern Spain — La Pasiega, Maltravieso, and Ardales — contain cave art that’s at least 64,800 years old. These sites are not new or unknown to archaeologists. But pinning down exactly when the cave art was painted has been a problem for decades. (The La Pasiega panel was originally sketched by researchers in 1913.) Dating experts, working in conjunction with archaeologists, developed a new set of techniques, carefully sampling geological material near the art in order to pin down the most likely time of painting.

The results have rocked the archaeological world, because the paintings appear to predate the arrival of modern humans in Europe by 20,000 years. In other words, the art comes from a time when the area was only occupied by Neanderthals. “It’s exciting to see dates that potentially reflect a long-term tradition or stable ‘artistic’ behavior amongst Neanderthals,” Felix Riede, an evolutionary archaeologist unaffiliated with the studies, told Hyperallergic in an email.

The cave paintings show simple but elegant motifs: a red linear pattern in La Pasiega, red-painted stalagmites and stalagtites in Andales, and, perhaps most impressively, a hand stencil in Maltravieso. These cave paintings suggest that Neanderthals had the ability to think symbolically and abstractly. Their apparent cognitive sophistication has also led researchers to speculate about Neanderthal language, and other behaviors that aren’t preserved in the fossil record. (Prior to this cave painting, the only other example of Neanderthal cave art was a significantly younger etching from Gibraltar, dated to roughly 40,000 year ago.) The Spanish cave art may be the oldest paintings in the world.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-03-echoes-thought-sites-prehistoric-art.html#jCp
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Neanderthals Made Cave Paintings Before Modern Humans Even Reached Europe (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2018 OP
Nice to see Neanderthals getting the human credit they deserve. greyl Mar 2018 #1
Oldest Known Paintings Created by Neanderthals, Not Modern Humans Judi Lynn Mar 2018 #2
Neanderthals made first cave paintings 20,000 years before modern humans Judi Lynn Mar 2018 #3

greyl

(22,997 posts)
1. Nice to see Neanderthals getting the human credit they deserve.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:21 PM
Mar 2018

Lots of web articles compare Neanderthals to humans (as if being Neanderthal isn't being human) , instead of using "modern humans" to describe "us".

Judi Lynn

(162,385 posts)
2. Oldest Known Paintings Created by Neanderthals, Not Modern Humans
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:26 PM
Mar 2018

The animal pictures and hand stencils were made in caves in Spain thousands of years before Homo sapiens arrived in Europe.

By Catherine Offord | February 26, 2018



Hand stencils in Maltravieso Cave in Spain
H. COLLADO

The oldest known cave paintings were created more than 64,000 years ago, and were not made by modern humans, according to a study published last week (February 23) in Science. Instead, the report concludes, the artists were probably Neanderthals. The findings add to mounting evidence that our ancient hominin cousins were capable of greater cultural and creative complexity than generally assumed.

“Neanderthals appear to have had a cultural competence that was shared by modern humans,” John Hawks, a paleoanthropologist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who wasn’t involved with the study, tells National Geographic. “They were not dumb brutes, they were recognizably human.”

The paintings, distributed across three caves in Spain, consist of black and red images of animals, as well as dots, hand stencils, and handprints. Using uranium-thorium dating, the University of Southampton’s Alistair Pike and colleagues found that the paintings were at least 64,000 years old—predating the estimated arrival of Homo sapiens in Europe by around 20,000 years, but millennia after Neanderthals had settled on the continent. “Our dating results show that the cave art at these three sites in Spain is much older than previously thought,” Pike says in a statement. It “must therefore have been created by Neanderthals.”

“This constitutes a major breakthrough in the field of human evolution studies,” Wil Roebroeks, an archaeologist at Leiden University who was not involved in the study, tells The New York Times. “Neanderthal authorship of some cave art is a fact.”

More:
https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/51907/title/Oldest-Known-Paintings-Created-by-Neanderthals--Not-Modern-Humans/

Judi Lynn

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3. Neanderthals made first cave paintings 20,000 years before modern humans
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:35 PM
Mar 2018

Neanderthals made first cave paintings 20,000 years before modern humans
By Brooks Hays | Feb. 23, 2018 at 12:40 PM

Feb. 23 (UPI) -- Modern humans weren't the first hominin with an artistic side. New research suggests Neanderthals were painting the walls of caves at least 64,000 years ago, roughly 20,000 years before modern humans began populating Europe.

Archaeologists discovered a series of ancient cave paintings in Spain. The artwork was made with paint derived from rich red-colored minerals. Scientists were able to date the paintings by analyzing the layers of carbonate deposited atop the paint.

The analysis method, called deuranium-thorium dating, proved the paintings were made more than 64,000 years ago.

"Our results show that the paintings we dated are, by far, the oldest known cave art in the world," Chris Standish, an archaeologist at the University of Southampton, said in a news release.

More:
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2018/02/23/Neanderthals-made-first-cave-paintings-20000-years-before-modern-humans/4811519396914/

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