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Jim__

(14,464 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:47 PM Oct 23

China's 'Thousand Sails' joins Starlink as the latest mega-satellite constellation in orbit

The latest pollution problem?

From phys.org


The first batch of Thousand Sails satellites head to orbit. Credit: CNSA
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It's getting crowded up there in Low Earth orbit (LEO). By now, flocks of Starlinks have become a familiar sight, and the bane of astrophotographers as the "vermin of the skies." Now, several new competitors have joined the fray, with more waiting in the wings.

Perhaps you've seen one of these curious-looking "satellite trains," and wondered what they were. Certainly, the advent of satellite trains courtesy of Starlink have added to the annals of purported UFO videos shot via smartphone across YouTube. Now, more agencies worldwide are getting into the game in 2024, assuring that the next "star" you wish on at dusk may, in fact, be an artificial satellite.

Streaks and trails due to the increasing number of Starlinks in orbit have also become a standard feature in modern deep sky images. While techniques to remove these have been pioneered by astrophotographers, these will continue to impact deep sky astronomy. This impact extends to sky surveys soon set to come online such as the Vera Rubin Observatory, set to see first light early next year in 2025.

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Dubbed China's answer to Starlink, this will see an initial 1,296 satellites for the constellation placed in orbit by 2027. The company also has plans to expand the network to 12,000 satellites into the 2030s. This first batch went into a polar (sun-synchronous) orbit, and the resulting satellite train was spotted in orbit shortly after launch.

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China's 'Thousand Sails' joins Starlink as the latest mega-satellite constellation in orbit (Original Post) Jim__ Oct 23 OP
Light pollution is a problem but there's a much larger problem, too. LastDemocratInSC Oct 23 #1
Beat me to it. One more thing where international cooperation is needed to stave off disaster, only ... eppur_se_muova Oct 24 #2
at some point in the near future, there will be a disastrous cascading effect of collision failures. it won't be pretty. Javaman Oct 24 #3

LastDemocratInSC

(3,848 posts)
1. Light pollution is a problem but there's a much larger problem, too.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:25 PM
Oct 23

We're sleep walking into a disaster with 10s of thousands of satellites in low earth orbit.

The Kessler syndrome is a cascade of satellite and debris collisions that could occur, and probably will occur at some point.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

eppur_se_muova

(37,500 posts)
2. Beat me to it. One more thing where international cooperation is needed to stave off disaster, only ...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 02:51 AM
Oct 24

Last edited Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:24 AM - Edit history (1)

no one in gov't (ours or theirs) is paying enough attention.

Javaman

(63,119 posts)
3. at some point in the near future, there will be a disastrous cascading effect of collision failures. it won't be pretty.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 06:58 AM
Oct 24
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