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GliderGuider

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Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:48 AM Aug 2012

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Yes, enlightenment is not for the squimish or faint of heart. Viva_Daddy Aug 2012 #1
Have you read "I Am That" by Nisargadatta? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #2
I have read it, yes, although it has been some time ago since I read it. Viva_Daddy Aug 2012 #3
Thanks for the list. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #4
I don't teach Advaita. My degrees are in Religious Studies and Theology. Viva_Daddy Aug 2012 #5
Are you sure? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #6

Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
1. Yes, enlightenment is not for the squimish or faint of heart.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 06:46 PM
Aug 2012
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
2. Have you read "I Am That" by Nisargadatta?
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:00 PM
Aug 2012

I finally started it - it seems I had to be ready for it. His pointers are so powerful and clear they drop me straight into the witness every time I pick the book up. The sense of "I am" is pretty constant now - if I notice that I've started to drive around in my concepts, simply asking "Who is thinking?" puts everything back in place. Satchitananda, and all that...

Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
3. I have read it, yes, although it has been some time ago since I read it.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:55 AM
Aug 2012

In the last few years, I have preferred to read Western writers on the subject: people like Sailor Bob, John Wheeler, Annette Nibley, Scott Kiloby, Nathan Gill, and especially Douglas Harding. Coming from my academic background, I find Western writers easier to relate to.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
4. Thanks for the list.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:28 PM
Aug 2012

I've encountered Sailor Bob and Harding, but not the others. Do you teach?

Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
5. I don't teach Advaita. My degrees are in Religious Studies and Theology.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:42 PM
Aug 2012
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. Are you sure?
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:49 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:11 PM - Edit history (3)

Your pointer to John Wheeler just caused something that felt a lot like learning...

Thank you.
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Edited to add: No, it felt a lot like stopping.

The point is simple: Just ... Stop.

I wonder if that message is so hard to hear because our monkey-minds tell us things like this: "Being is doing, doing is being. If you stop doing you will stop being. I don't want to stop being!!! So don't stop, do something!!!"

And then seekers who are "on a path" can say things back to their monkey-minds like, "Don't worry, it's OK. I am doing something - I'm learning how to Stop."

And the monkey says, "Oh well, learning about Stopping isn't Stopping. Learning is OK. Just make sure you don't Stop."

And the monkey-mind calms down and goes back to sleep in the corner while the seeker goes on learning, and not Stopping.

I think I'll stop now.

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