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Related: About this forumMamdani Sweep in NYC Adds to Strains Between Jews and Democratic Party
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What unsettled them was the scale of victory by a trio of left-wing candidates who were endorsed by Mayor Zohran Mamdani and had made criticism of Israel the emotional core of their campaigns.
One, Democratic Socialist Darializa Avila Chevalier, attended a pro-Palestine rally in Times Square a day after the Oct. 7 attack on Israel. Fellow Democrats denounced the rally as condoning Hamass massacre. Yet Avila Chevalier still managed to overtake incumbent Adriano Espaillat in New Yorks 13th Congressional District, which includes Upper Manhattan and parts of the Bronx.
Watching the results on a television at the Goldman party, Rachel Lavine, a member of the Village Independent Democrats political club, was astonished. This is about hating Jews, said Lavine. I feel like we have a problem within the Jewish community of not understanding how serious this is. At this point, Israel is a beard for antisemitism.
New York City boasts the largest Jewish community outside Israel and stands as a metropolis where generations of Jews have thrived while leaving an indelible cultural mark. Yet Tuesdays resultsafter campaigns that dwelled on Israel and, in the view of some, deployed antisemitic tropeshave scrambled their relationship to the city while exposing fractures within their own community.
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While Tuesday nights New York City results felt seismicnot least as an expression of Mamdanis growing powersome analysts questioned their breadth. Pro-Israel moderates also prevailed, including Micah Lasher, who won a hotly contested race to succeed Jerry Nadler in Manhattans 12th District.
Rep. Brad Sherman, a Jewish Democrat from California who has long been a leading pro-Israel voice in Congress, said the results reflected the particular politics of a few New York districtsnot the country.
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(32,976 posts)Lovie777
(24,469 posts)but I think we will be ok.
appmanga
(1,577 posts)...and this is what bothers me about some of these critics. Finding fault with Israel's approach to the Palestinians in Gaza isn't hating Israel; it's hating indiscriminate tactics against a population for no other reason than they're Palestinians. Anyone with an ounce of morality knows, and will say, what happened on October 7th was despicable and heinous, but the response was disproportion, wrong, inhumane, and not befitting of a country we choose to support. Calling out Israel isn't "hating" Israel, and I don't think I'm alone in rejecting that characterization.
No government, and no person, is above criticism.
hlthe2b
(115,173 posts)And to that, I mean that those who continue to conflate disdain for Netanyahu and his policies, including Gaza (after the initial quite justified response to Oct. 8) and indiscriminate killing of civilians in Lebanon, West Bank, and elsewhere--ignoring Iran for the moment-- as antisemitism, are simply exploiting ignorance or have a very indefensible agenda. That a very large proportion of Jews would (and DO) say the same-- and do not defend any of the previously mentioned, only underscores the point.
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question everything
(52,619 posts)rally a day after the massacre?
lostincalifornia
(5,658 posts)conveniently ignored by some.
FoxNewsSucks
(12,009 posts)in Israel and everywhere else should get rid of Netanyahu.
The far-right Netanyahu is the problem, and it's what is opposed. Not the Jewish religion.
question everything
(52,619 posts)But this country does not have neighbors from, say, Nexico constantly attacking communities he way Hezbollah has been doing.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,318 posts)Bluetus
(3,282 posts)#2, what is this "a trio of left-wing candidates" bullshit? Tell me what is "left wing" about any of them?
As far as I can tell, their positions fall right in the middle of American (and NY) politics, which is why they won.
Let's stop this empty name-calling.
The headline should be, "AIPAC is strained because Americans are voting for people who will represent the interests of Americans, not the interests of AIPAC."
Or better yet, "AIPAC efforts to villify primary candidates backfires"
question everything
(52,619 posts)the day after the massacre? Before Israel fired a single shot?
And, yes, they are left wing, that thankfully do not represent the Democratic Party.
Our party, the Democratic one, should have never allowed the socialist to run in Democratic primaries. Let them form their own party and then compete in the general elections. Like the Greens and others.
And, by the way, did you notice that this is the Jewish group, for Jews to feel safe from anti Jewish opinions like yours?
Please delete it.
lostincalifornia
(5,658 posts)Behind the Aegis
(56,315 posts)Thankfully, we have those who Gentilesplain' so that makes it all better.
We Jews need to get their shit together like the gay community did when we were the target. The problem is too many are not used to being on their heels. The heard about anti-Semitism from their parents/grandparents, some may have even experienced some, but not the levels other minorities saw. The past few years have been an earth-shattering experience for many who have only read about anti-Semitism, and a younger community has grown up hating themselves and their culture, while being completely ignorant of it.