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UrbScotty

(23,987 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 12:05 AM Nov 2019

The failed leadership of US bishops is clear - National Catholic Reporter editorial

What has become clear is that too many of the bishops still are captives of the political culture wars; that the conference as a whole has been drained of authority and credibility because of the ongoing sexual abuse scandal; and that the bishops have been frozen in place by their inability to collectively and honestly examine the secretive, privileged culture that was the pathway to the current mess.

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Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput affirmed that abortion has held the top spot as an issue for the bishops for years. Archbishop Alexander Sample of Portland, Oregon, placed the bishops squarely in the stream of partisan politics when he argued: "We are at a unique moment with the upcoming election cycle to make a real challenge to Roe v. Wade, given the possible changes to the Supreme Court. We should not dilute our efforts to protect the unborn."

That is a thinly disguised endorsement of not only the Republican Party but also the Trump administration. In more than 40 years of pursuing the narrow objective of a legal remedy to abortion, the bishops have placed themselves at the service of those who want to load the courts with conservative judges, but they've accomplished little, continuous polling tells us, to persuade anyone of their point of view, including Catholics.


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The failed leadership of US bishops is clear - National Catholic Reporter editorial (Original Post) UrbScotty Nov 2019 OP
The Catholic vote is almost always Democratic and always has been with rare exceptions. braddy Nov 2019 #1
I wouldn't be too concerned by the opinions of the Bishops or of the Church. I'm a Catholic, but napi21 Nov 2019 #2
Freedom of religion Pence keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #3
The Bishops have driven millions out of the church 47of74 Nov 2019 #4

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. I wouldn't be too concerned by the opinions of the Bishops or of the Church. I'm a Catholic, but
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 12:23 AM
Nov 2019

the church members have been ignoring the church teachings on birth control for YEARS! I went to a Catholic grade & high school, so I heard the Church teachings for 12 years! The two sons went to the local public school & attended CCD classes on Saturdays. Today they are 51 & 48 years old and both have said "What are you supposed to do, have 10 kids?" I suspect they have the same feelings as I do on abortion. They don't agree with having on, I would never have had one, but we don't have the right to force our opinion on everyone else. Pro/anti abortion rights opinion of a candidate doesn't affect my decision to vote for them or not.

You'll hear a lot of loud Bishops & strong Catholics say differently, but the majority of the Catholic population agree with me.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
4. The Bishops have driven millions out of the church
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:58 PM
Nov 2019

When I went over to the Episcopal Church in 2012 one of the big reasons why was that the Bishops seemed determine to turn the Catholic church into a wing of the Republican party. I just reached my breaking point and swam the Thames that year due to the behavior of the Bishops.

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