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peppertree

(22,850 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:55 PM Sep 2021

Pope Francis defends Joe Biden from calls to deny communion over abortion stance

Pope Francis on Wednesday cautioned Catholic bishops not to get into politics, amid questions among conservative US elements of the church over whether pro-choice politicians like Joe Biden should be allowed to receive communion.

Francis said bishops must deal with those who support abortion rights with “compassion and tenderness.”

At the same time the pope reiterated strict church doctrine by calling abortion “murder” - even when done soon after conception.

Francis was speaking to reporters on his flight home from Slovakia, and was asked about the debate simmering among US bishops in the wake of the high-profile Texas abortion law - which Mr. Biden’s administration strongly opposes.

“The problem is not theological, it’s pastoral,” the pope said.

“How we bishops deal with this principle. We must be pastors, also with those who are excommunicated. Like God with passion and tenderness. The Bible says so.”

At: https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-defends-joe-biden-095350401.html



During his return flight from Slovakia on Wednesday, Pope Francis addressed the issue of communion to pro-choice public officials:

Citing historic atrocities committed by the church in the name of faith when it involved itself in politics, he asked clergy to “be pastors and not go condemning, condemning.”
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Pope Francis defends Joe Biden from calls to deny communion over abortion stance (Original Post) peppertree Sep 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #1
Sure! It was both fun and touching. peppertree Sep 2021 #3
Pryce was also the High Sparrow in Game of Thrones. TheRealNorth Sep 2021 #5
Ah, yes. Not a GOT fan though. peppertree Sep 2021 #6
I encouraged non-religious friends to watch it. They all loved it. shrike3 Sep 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #10
He's not all that we need today in terms of reform, but damn if he isn't a breath of fresh air hlthe2b Sep 2021 #2
+1 peppertree Sep 2021 #4
I've followed Burke's illness now and again. No Vested Interest Sep 2021 #7
He also responded to EWTN attacks. Kingofalldems Sep 2021 #8

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peppertree

(22,850 posts)
3. Sure! It was both fun and touching.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:22 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)

And they couldn't have cast the two protagonists better: Hopkins, as the gruff but astute Benedict; and Pryce as the somewhat provincial Bergoglio.

Their garden conversation really captured the contest between the 'judgmental' church and the understanding church.

For Pryce, it was the second time portraying an Argentine-born head of state: his first, of course, was as populist President Juan Perón in Evita.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
9. I encouraged non-religious friends to watch it. They all loved it.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:36 PM
Sep 2021

Two old men sitting around talking, and you can't take your eyes off them.

Response to shrike3 (Reply #9)

hlthe2b

(106,335 posts)
2. He's not all that we need today in terms of reform, but damn if he isn't a breath of fresh air
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:07 PM
Sep 2021

compared to what came before him. I do hope the Vatican is keeping him safe from the far RW Cardinals and Archbishops who might (HAVE)conspired to do him in.

Speaking of the latter it has been over a month since we've heard an update on the abysmal anti-vaxxer, pro- communion-denial-to-Biden, yet COVID-infected Cardinal Burke. I wonder if karma is working on him one last time as well...

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
4. +1
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:32 PM
Sep 2021

Here's hoping the Opus Dei and other right-wing elements don't get their way, when Pope Francis' time comes to a close.

You know they're scheming - hoping to install some Cardinal Burke type.

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
7. I've followed Burke's illness now and again.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:02 AM
Sep 2021

Last notice, about Aug. 28, he was off the ventilator and going into "intense rehab".

I do not wish him ill, but wouldn't be sad if he was no longer able to speak out with false and damaging info.

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