I think DU needs our Love :-)

[kentauros]

I've noticed DU's septics going into a full-tilt "War on Woo" lately. It feels like the place is out of balance. I know some of that is due to the overload of wingers flooding the site, but when the regulars start getting apoplectic on the subjects they don't usually discuss outside of their safe-havens, then something is amiss.

We need a massive site-clearing! So, I'll start off the energy with the rhythms of Layne Redmond and Tommy Be:

[Tuesday Afternoon]

1. intention is good. kentauros. thanks.

[Cleita]

2. It sure needs something.

Site cleansing seems a good place to start. What the woo critics seem to forget is that science started from mystic practices and experiments. Astronomy, medicine, chemistry, mathematics and physics all have roots in ancient mysticism.

[kentauros]

4. That's true, Cleita :)

But you can't tell them that. They'd rather forget that past. Does that then mean they are doomed to repeat it?

[kentauros]

5. Ever since I posted this ten hours ago

it's become a full "war" from both "sides" over there! Perhaps this is the clearing at work

While I've participated a little bit, it was mostly to give a little more exposure to my use of "septic" as opposed to their use of "woo." As predicted, they didn't like it

I haven't posted in a few hours, other than to clarify to another friend about my intentions. I'm not really reading much of it, just supporting some folks with recs. After I bring my plants inside in a bit, I'll start sending them the Love they all need.

[WolverineDG]

6. between the woo wars & the post about attorneys working for free

because otherwise they're money-grubbers making families broke & miserable (no, kittens, that's the Mom & Dad...the attorneys are the clean-up crew), I'm just about done here.

smh

[kentauros]

7. I'm getting to that point, too.

I check my subscribed groups, and I'm still a host on the Interfaith group here, but GD and LBN have pretty much driven me away from DU. I spend more time on FB and an otherkin message board than I do here. ASAH is not nearly as active as it used to be, yet at the same time, our detractors' groups are just as dead.

Many are leaving DU, and I don't really consider FB as a good replacement for it (primarily due to the format for sharing information; it's simply not as good as a message board.)

Well, I better do my meditation before I can't remain awake any more

[Tumbulu]

8. Oh and don't forget all those defending

violent porn.... I feel quite disgusted by the meanness of the most vocal posters. I think that the admin needs to act, it is really a way to lose people. Maybe it's time has come anyway.

[Tumbulu]

9. You are so correct

Thank you for bringing it up!

If any group can heal this site it is ours (along with the interfaith group)!

[kentauros]

10. I meditated earlier and sent some

though I may need to send a supplement

I had originally posted this in response to only a few persistent threads from the last couple of days. Today, it was like a homeopathic bomb went off! People were finally fed-up with the septics and took them to task. They came out in full antagonist defense, of course, though I do have to wonder how many will be replacing keyboards this week

And the "name removed" post here does have me wondering who followed me Home...

[Manifestor_of_Light]

11. I'm into rationality but....

I've had a couple of "woo" type things happen to me.

One was when my first husband's older brother died, and I went to the memorial service at the Rice Media Center. He worked there.

Well, I went up and spoke to my ex and had not seen him in over 30 years, not since 1980 when I moved home from college in San Antonio.

We talked for a while and I felt two invisible hands open my ribs and a whole lot of pain flew out of my heart chakra. The feeling lasted about an hour after I left the building and it was extraordinary.

When I was married to him he was very immature and emotionally abusive. He also could not keep it in his pants and said some pretty horrible things about me, and made no effort to hide one of his many affairs from the faculty at the college he had transferred to. He was a spoiled little Jewish kid, angry and his parents were angry, and I could not figure out why. I was pretty embarrassed. Turns out he eventually became homeless, had drug and alcohol problems, and eventually turned his life around. Now he's earned his Master of Divinity degree, is a Methodist assistant minister and a music minister. I was stunned that he had changed so much for the better and was actively helping people instead of hurting them.


Another one: In 2004, I took my daughter to college in New Orleans. She had some sour cream that I took home and ate. I got sick and went to the ER. She dreamed that I was in her dorm building and seriously injured. She tried to call me. She couldn't get ahold of me for a day, and when we finally connected I told her I'd gone to the emergency room with food poisoning. So she was having not a precognitive dream but a same-time-something-bad-was-happening dream that her mom was ill.


So yes there are things we can't explain. I had a girlfriend who had a precognitive dream about a woman in her apartment complex that was murdered. This was in the early 90s. She had never seemed to be a person into esp or things of that nature. The dream was about a month before it happened. Understandably, she was rather upset about it and probably didn't tell anyone else about it but me.

[kentauros]

15. Those were some fascinating experiences, MoL!

Thank you for sharing them. I had never heard them, and was amazed with your first experience. I can't say I've ever felt anything quite like that, and I'm sure it was quite an ecstatic feeling

[villager]

12. The meanness in this place is what's changed, over the years...

Unless I was blind to it in the early years?

But now you have regular posters in this "Underground" who attack and demean their "fellow "Democrats" for the grave sin of disagreeing, holding a somewhat different worldview, etc.

I thought that kind of intolerant mean-spiritedness informed the sort of politics we were fighting against?

[Tumbulu]

13. Yes, me too, it is sad to see nt

[Lucinda]

14. I's always been there....we eat our own unless there is a national election to focus on - and then

it only shifts after the fight during the primaries when we have our nominee. Unless we have a specific THEM during an election, this stuff goes on in GD year round. But I do agree that there is another layer of meanness of late, which, to me, feels like pot stirring by moles from conservative websites who love to start fights here.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

16. Some people get their energy from being angry.

All the time. I've run into it in the conservative rural area I live in. Anger and hate is their fuel. And whiny, negative shitkick "music" and Fox News. Must be an awful way to live that eats you up.

There's a white guy who works at the post office. The postmaster is a black lady. He said "We have a love-hate relationship. I love to hate her." That's the redneck idea of cleverness. He thought he was funny when he was being offensive.

I told him, "You have a choice. You can be positive, or you can be negative. It's up to you." He said, "Yes, ma'am."

They are busy hating minorities or Obama or whatever, because everything is some brown or black person's fault. They have no idea they are being manipulated by the Koch brothers.

And don't get me started on rap and "bitches 'n' hoes" type glorification of violence and misogyny. And the movies I call "Explosions 'n' Shit" because that is all they are. No human warmth or relationships. Just violence and more violence.

I sound like an old person.

[BlueToTheBone]

17. We had *co to focus on then

and now we don't wake up each morning to some dreadful piece of news. The natives are restless and because there is very little real activism, the keyboard gets a work out.

[NuttyFluffers]

18. the fire must burn, but with love it may be infused with safety

without the toxins of the past purged, new growth shall be poisoned. however love + fire focuses upon the cleansing and inspiring essence of fire, reminding us of respect and caution during the job it must do.

let love transform this into this

your idea is good!