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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:56 PM Jan 2013

On maintaining our personal space/vibration.

Please post here your observations and technique(s) for keeping in a higher vibration while emotional storms swell and break around you. This is a highly valuable skill / muscle to build. Especially now that in co-creation, as we attempt to unify, group co-creation becomes powerful, and group reaction to trouble and tragedy can be overwhelming to the sensitive.

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On maintaining our personal space/vibration. (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 OP
I always try to keep two perspectives going lunatica Jan 2013 #1
Hello, and thank you for your post! Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #2
Thank you! lunatica Jan 2013 #3
OH BLUSH! Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #4
I loved the libodem Jan 2013 #5
I pay attention to where I put my focus OneGrassRoot Jan 2013 #6
Great question! FirstLight Jan 2013 #7
I just don't have anybody positive to hang out with. Please see my post in another thread. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #8
Location, location, location! In general, those sorts of places and people Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #10
Thanks. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #11
MOL .. Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #13
Thanks for that suggestion! Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #14
Yep! Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #15
I used to live in red areas for my work Tumbulu Jan 2013 #16
We talk to the store checkers and make them laugh. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #9
Humor is my go-to for lots of things. davsand Jan 2013 #12
Great work! Tumbulu Jan 2013 #17

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. I always try to keep two perspectives going
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jan 2013

There is the ego perception and the soul level perception. They can many times be complete opposites. What the ego, or human side of us finds terrible and painful the soul side of us understands is important in the evolution towards godliness. The human being in us attaches to things and thoughtforms which are false when seen on the soul level. Separation from those thoughtforms is a painful process which seems 'bad'. On the soul level it is 'good' to let go of falsehoods, no matter how compelling they may be.

Sorry, long, long time lurker here.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
4. OH BLUSH!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jan 2013


I'm very glad to see you here. Your "uncloaking" brings home another important point: community. Stick with those working upon and in high vibration.

There is a lot of work to do, some of it Troubling. It will be important to be able to choose to sing and dance and laugh by choice, in groups. I'm extremely introverted so I tend to physically isolate (we recharge when alone, the opposite of extroverts who thrive in groups) and the concept of groups isn't natural to me, it must be chosen. Peace!

libodem

(19,288 posts)
5. I loved the
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jan 2013

Handbook to higher Consciousness. It has 12 pathways and when you start feeling unbalanced you know you are violation of one of them.
One of them starts out: I welcome the opportunity, even if painful, that my moment to moment experiences, offer me, to become aware of the addictions I must reprogram, to blah blah blah, I can't remember. But it is an attitude that 'upsets', are a time to search our demands and expectations, and figure out what it is we believe we just have to have, or we pull out the emotion driven temper tantrums or sulky sadness until we get what we want.

I'll look up the whole thing if I can find the book. It's all taped together with the pages falling out.

OneGrassRoot

(23,424 posts)
6. I pay attention to where I put my focus
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jan 2013

As trouble, drama, chaos and even suffering swirls all around, I choose to stay aware of it rather than remove myself or attempt to "rise above."

In order to not be pulled into a downward spiral of despair as a result of being aware, I remind myself to focus on how to be of service...positive action...rather than stay immersed in the negativity.

For those familiar with Abraham's messages, one last week confirmed this for me:

"If you intend to be of assistance, your eye is not upon the trouble but upon the assistance, and that is quite different. When you are looking for a solution, you are feeling positive emotion— but when you are looking at a problem, you are feeling negative emotion."

It really is like flexing a muscle. I'm finding this ability to focus and maintain that perspective comes more easily than it did previously.

FWWM



FirstLight

(14,108 posts)
7. Great question!
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jan 2013

I think the most basic thing is Breathing...whether I am in traffic, the store, etc... Funny, I was in the store today and feeling Impatient, ended up cracking a joke to the person in front of me and it totally shifted it. so laughter works too.,..in fact i think it is of UBER importance to NOT take anything too personally these days...because we are ALL in flux!

let's see....I think the other thing is to remind myself to talk and reach out to the people in my life that are positive and of like-mindedness. I need to keep perspective and often it is that friend who gives me a sacred quote or offers reiki or an insight into the spiritual nature of an issue...it keeps me in the 'right side of "reality"' I just have to listen to my own guidance about who to call ...

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
8. I just don't have anybody positive to hang out with. Please see my post in another thread.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:58 AM
Jan 2013

Rick's thread about the New Moon in Capricorn. The "draining and depressing confrontation" and the following post about the nightmare I had the next morning.

I live where people are happy to tell me I'm going to hell, or tell me what makes God angry, or are generally paranoid, angry and love their guns. They love to get mad and argue with me about irrational stuff like their faith. I do not want to provoke them. They cannot understand why I don't want to go to their church, because that's what they do to be friendly--invite you to their (fundamentalist evangelical, anti-intellectual) church. They are ignorant and proud of it. Won't learn anything. Refuse to listen. Obsessed with Jesus. It's not worth the effort. I withdraw.

I feel extremely isolated and threatened, and the only person I can talk to is hubby. We moved here because I inherited the family home that has been here since 1882.

We have both had nightmares about intruders into our house. We put up a fence with an electric gate to keep people from bothering us.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
10. Location, location, location! In general, those sorts of places and people
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:20 AM
Jan 2013

are going to get worse as they more fully manifest their nature. Do you have an landing pad if you have to take a break from that area for any length of time?

And if you're both having dreams like that, they might be literal regarding the invasive natures of those people...not good. You said "extremely". Please pray together for Divine Guidance on the entire thing and take note of what crops up afterward. There are Trends at work, both upward and downward. Get on board the Divine Flow! No one should have to live like you've described!

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
11. Thanks.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:59 AM
Jan 2013

I don't know where I'd go. I own a house in Houston that I rent out for income. After taxes & insurance it's not much. Property taxes in Houston are high b/c we don't have a state income tax.

I can't even visit my friends in the city b/c they have cats and dogs and I have allergic asthma. They think if they vacuum the place it will be fine for me. WRONG. I cry, I sneeze, wheeze, have coughing fits and break out in rashes and have to take prednisone. The inflammation drives my BP up and I don't think they understand it.

I have outdoor cats. When I pet them I run inside and wash my arms off b/c they itch and turn red and I put benadryl gel on them.

I lost a couple of friends because they borrowed money and never paid it back. The economy is bad all over but I felt depressed and horrible because they were using me. In fact, hubby was extremely depressed too, and we decided we had to say no.

We don't have an infinite supply of money. There is only so much you can do. These two women were friends of mine for 40 years, both of them. One of them has a bunch of mooching kids and grandkids who should be supporting her instead.

Hubby's older son's girlfriend is in the oilfield biz and made grandiose promises to sell her company and give us shares in it, so we'd never have to worry about money again, etc.and she is full of shit. It's her ego talking. She's an alcoholic and very insulting. We have both stopped speaking to her and the son spouts rightwing horseshit without thinking. She's using him. He has no boundaries and is very immature. He may be drinking a lot too & has
a DUI conviction.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
13. MOL ..
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:37 PM
Jan 2013
I am one of those out of town friends. I have a dog and cat, and I'm still smoking (much less! yay!). You would be miserable with me around.

I want to make a suggestion, though. Obviously I am not a doctor and this is not *medical advice*. When I posted on facebook about my not smoking program, one friend, who is a massage therapist and teaches seminars for breath work) pointed out to me that Grief is held in our lungs. Grief and sadness are lung issues. You had that terrible bout of pneumonia and you already have 'sad' lungs with asthma. There are a lot of food things you can use to help. http://www.healingfoodreference.com/lungs.html And breath work would also be beneficial for you. I like the story Cleita tells about how she helped her late husband with his COPD. She got him a harmonica to exercise his lungs. That's one approach. Doing routines of deep breathing is another. Breathe! Do the best you can with the condition of your lungs as they are. I'm finding that meditation is also good for my lungs. I smoke a lot less when I meditate.

Every time one of the locals there says or does hurtful things, that pain is going straight to your lungs. Even though less noticeable, I think those feelings are harming you as much as an allergen. Feel better
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
14. Thanks for that suggestion!
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jan 2013

Hadn't thought of that. When I had that years-long bout of pneumonia when I was getting a divorce, I was also barfing all the time from sinus infections. I think that my body was literally rejecting all the hate and emotional abuse and lack of respect my then-husband had dumped on me.

In the other thread, now Rick (and someone named new cappy moon) is getting on my case for attempting to get away from the guy in the store. Told them I'd already had a life threatening vascular incident in Nov of 2011. Trying to protect my own health by avoiding a very stressful situation, because of my high blood pressure. Oh wonderful!

Everytime I talk to anyone but a therapist or hubby about my problems, somebody attacks me for whatever I did. No idea where I would move if I could.

I keep remembering what Freddy Nietszche said, "If you value your thoughts, why do you speak them aloud?"



I'll try to take the Buddhist view and attempt to stop being attached to wanting approval from other humans and wanting friends.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
15. Yep!
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jan 2013

I think so too. Your body was doing its best to dump all that crap he was dishing out. Bronchitis is my 'stress disease'. I always need antibiotics, and it seems to drag on forever. I went through a very stressful period last year, and I just backed off of everything. One more little thing could have brought it on. It's miserable. I cannot imagine what it must be like to have something like that go on forever.

I'm thinking that by doing everything you can to strengthen your lungs, you won't feel so much pain when people are thoughtless or insensitive. I find that thought reassuring for dealing with my own breathing issues, by addressing body and emotions.

Buddhism isn't something I choose for myself. I'm more of a Taoist. It is a much more gentle path. There is no striving, only allowing.

I wrote the guy who initially told me about the lungs. This is what he had to say:

### According to oriental medicine, grief is the emotion for lungs. The sound is wailing (which can sound a lot like deep laughing - interesting huh?). I do believe that breathing exercises can make a difference. Many times when people begin breath training, grief is the primary emotion that manifests to be processed. For this reason I suggest getting with someone that can help the process. My friend %%%% is doing a one day breathwork workshop Saturday the 19th. It is excellent for working on grief. You can also get with the rebirthing breathwork community. They try to do a workshop a month, and they are also very supportive. Aerobic exercise is good too - not just for the muscle and heart conditioning - but because it makes you use your breathing apparatus. The advantage here is you can burn off excess energy that may also be stored with grief, anger and frustration. The neurochemical changes that happen in aerobic exercise can also shift the balance from down to up. If you want a simple breath exercise, buy a couple bags of balloons. Blow them up until they burst. Blow them all up one at a time as quick as you can until they are all gone. The fuller they get, the harder you have to work. That's the exercise part. The loud noise when they explode helps to break up blockages in your energy field close to the chest. It will also be some fun and empowering at the same time. The one thing about slow, deep, meditative breathing, is it takes a long time. It works, but very slowly and subtlety. You need something more vigorous to break the old energy cycle and create a new energy cycle. There are a few breathing videos on youtube, but there aren't any I really recommend without further instruction or guidance. You could try them though. Look for warrior breath or upper chest breathing. Diaphragm breathing is not the right style for this goal.

Tumbulu

(6,448 posts)
16. I used to live in red areas for my work
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:42 PM
Jan 2013

and now I'm in a purple valley near a blue town. MY GOODNESS WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!!!! I cannot begin to tell you how it felt to remove myself from being hated by strangers. People who have not experienced this have no idea how prison-like it is. How it becomes a sort of living PTSD experience.

I know selling a house is not so easy. But I highly recommend that you find a blue town or city and move to it ASAP.

I really mean this. It took me many years to recover from the roughly 20 years I lived in red zones. I am not even sure that I have recovered. But the anger and rudeness of the wrong wingers really is dangerous and it seems as though you know this. Please act on it.

Please try to get out of there. There are lots of really nice blue towns. I can name a few- what is important to you? Lakes, mountains, flat fertile ground? I am happy to help you look.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
9. We talk to the store checkers and make them laugh.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jan 2013

I always tell them not to work too hard, and that will usually get a laugh.

I always sympathize with how hard they work. But we still don't have any friends.

davsand

(13,428 posts)
12. Humor is my go-to for lots of things.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:37 PM
Jan 2013

A healthy dose of compassion helps too. No matter how impatient I feel I look for the opportunity to turn stress points into something less. Sounds odd maybe, but it just seems to me like everybody is wrapped pretty tight these days--like maybe we ALL are carrying a lot of stress and upset.

I was at the grocery store the other day and there was a man ahead of me in the checkout lane. A woman was ahead of the man and she wrote a check to pay for a bunch of groceries. Some kind of message came up on the computer that told the checker not to accept the check. The clerk did a fine job of being discrete with the lady, but I could just FEEL that lady's embarrassment and upset rolling off of her in almost waves. The clerk was getting progressively more worked up and worried that the rest of the line was gonna get peeved and escalate the situation even further. The guy ahead of me turned around to look at me like he was unsure of what to do, and I just kind of smiled at him and nodded my head. I made some joke about the steaks he had in his cart--that dinner looked pretty good and what time should we show up...

In the meantime, the service manager came over and they got the lady out of the line and took her over to the service desk.

The checker promptly apologized to the people in line for making us wait and I piped up with a compliment to her at how well she had handled the situation--how diplomatic I thought she'd been in a situation that had to be terribly awkward for that lady. The man ahead of me turned around and smiled at me like he was relieved. When he left everybody was still smiling, and he wished me a nice day. Turns out that the lady behind me in the line was a trainer for the store and SHE complimented the checker as well. Everybody was on an even keel by the time I paid and got out of there.

Could have been a LOT worse, and had anybody wanted to be an ass...


Laura

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