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trotsky

(49,533 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:10 AM Nov 2019

Victims, reports say boards to review church abuse flawed

https://apnews.com/66ffb032675b4e599eb77c0875718dd4

Facing thousands of cases of clergy sex abuse, U.S. Catholic leaders addressed their greatest crisis in the modern era with a promised reform: Mandatory review boards.

These independent panels with lay people in each diocese would review allegations fairly and kindly. And they would help bishops ensure that no abusive priests stayed in ministry.

But almost two decades later, an Associated Press investigation of review boards across the country shows they have broadly failed to uphold these commitments. Instead, review boards appointed by bishops and operating in secrecy have routinely undermined sex abuse claims from victims, shielded accused priests and helped the church avoid payouts.

...“It’s a fraud. It’s a sham. It’s a cover-up,” said David Lasher, 56, the owner of a furniture design company who told the review board in St. Petersburg, Florida, in April about his sexual abuse by a priest. “There’s no one on the board that cares for the victim...it’s all about protecting the church.


What a shocker. And yet there are still those who try to defend this rotten, corrupt organization.
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MineralMan

(147,591 posts)
1. "review boards appointed by bishops "
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 09:43 AM
Nov 2019

There's your problem right there. Putting a fox entry flap in your henhouse isn't wise. If the Bishops are at the heart of the problem, who does anyone suppose they'll appoint to such a review board? Ridiculous.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Again it comes down to the church viewing itself as the ultimate authority.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 10:28 AM
Nov 2019

It cannot submit to anything else, by definition. That is what makes the abuse worse. But whataboutists don't like to talk about that, so they whatabout.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
7. Yes but whatabout when child rape happens outside the church?
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 03:11 PM
Nov 2019

That “proves” it’s just ‘human nature’ and in no way means organized religion is in any way responsible.

All the evidence the RCC had significant influence over police and the justice system, influenced parents to keep quiet, moved child rapists to other poorer counties to avoid prosecution, and allowed networks of child raping priests to share victims, well that could have happened anywhere. I mean after all, there’s all sorts of secular organizations that enjoy absolute trust over all of these people, indoctrinated into them from birth, right?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
8. My favorite: "fAMiLiEs dOn'T HAvE aNY SecUlAR oVeRSiGht EItHer!!"
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 04:01 PM
Nov 2019

Which is patently untrue, there are many mandated reporters who intersect with most families' lives - teachers, doctors, etc.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
9. But not priests because they are specifically exempted
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 04:41 PM
Nov 2019

At least in most states. And we know this is a recipe for insuring the child rapes and cover ups will benefit from this exemption because experts like prosecutors and child welfare advocacy organizations are telling us this. But some are still "unsure" and instead want to parrot out the RCC's own position on why that's a bad idea, because after all nobody really knows as much about child rape as the RCC. And the reason nobody knows as much about it is because the RCC won't release all their records going back decades with thousands of cases of members of their organization raping children and institutionalized cover ups and shielding rapists from prosecution in dozens of different ways. It's really more accurate to say nobody knows more about covering up child rape than the RCC because they simply have far more experience doing it.

The reason the RCC spends millions of dollars lobbying against secular accountability is pretty clear to anyone north of a room temperature IQ. But some are still "unsure" about it because of the exact same talking points the RCC is using as if everyone is just too stupid not to see through the child rape apologia.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. Right. Another special exception just for religion.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:13 AM
Nov 2019

And now throw in the entire RCC hierarchy being exempted from mandatory reporting laws. Gee, what's the worst that could go wrong? How about... hmmm... what's actually happened?

Some people have no shame when it comes to protecting privilege for their religion.

But hey, we can always blame the victims for not coming forward sooner, right? /s

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
11. They are exempted because they do such a great job of policing themselves
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:55 AM
Nov 2019

And we know they are doing such a great job because we are fortunate to have a RCC water boy parroting our the RCC’s own explanation of how they are doing such a great job.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
6. What we really need right now is a child rape apologist to give us the RCC's position
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 02:55 PM
Nov 2019

I’m sure there’s some priest out there who has written an article on how secular regulation of the RCC’s culture of child rape has no hope of working and how the RCC is doing such a great job of addressing this problem themselves.

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