Newsflash: A book is a form of technology...

[NeoGreen]

...we've already have been corrupted by lies spread through technology. Just sayin'

[edhopper]

1. And the first book printed

with the printing press was......

[NeoGreen]

2. A a poorly edited book of iron age fantasies...

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...with a novel with a subset of 4 late add-on chapters repeating the same story written from 4 different, and often contradictory, points of view.

The first book of lies? The first faux news of lies?

[guillaumeb]

3. Technology inevitably corrupts?

What about the spoken word?

[Backseat Driver]

4. Creative speculation leads me to believe that

DonTheCon may be a failed robotic AI experiment; programmed with a dictator's authoritarian narcissistic traits, no real skills or human culture, no comprehension or ability to retain new knowledge, lack of empathy, curiosity, or generosity, etc...and with already programmable prurient interests, manufactured anatomically/functionally correct(?) as a body double with a daily dose of spray-tan on the PCR'd tissue and that Hair permanently implanted! GODLESS, and created by MAN! No other Gods Before ME? Charming, no? That's the thing that got elected to lead our nation.

I've considered that DARPA and other very private corporate subsidiaries mess around with far more than we know; just because they can with a bigly DoD budget. Ever watch Westworld; bots learning the game the longer they "exist" depending on how "guests" interact with them and rebootable. Realistic AI-equipped sex dolls can already be ordered up on-line with customized options.

OK, I'll STFU now. I believe organized religion, no matter which, has become corrupted and speak to their flocks with the tongues of serpents. I'd rather hedge my bets of belief on the "improvements" tacked up by Martin Luther, that's how I was brought up, afterall; but it's now a personal spirituality that recognizes the dark side of free will in humans and the awesomeness, beauty, and value of life and the universe's creation as we believe. That personal system gives me wide leeway to explore anything I need to cope with what it means to be human; so many choices! But there's a point when choices are irreversibly damning...change is possible though maybe not probable even when detected and treated early - Whatever the blessed or the damned may think, something, like death, happens to real humans. Machines fail; parts wear out! Humans just need to come to terms with their values in this world and their hopes and dreams when the energy that supports life goes out! Not sure that AI-equipped bots have that capacity no matter what they learn to say!

[guillaumeb]

5. That is indeed creative speculation.

My view is that Pence seems far more programmed than Trump. If Trump were an AI, the program has significant processing errors.

[Backseat Driver]

7. Pence's programming was done with peer pressure; Trump the bot "thinks" he has no peer! n/t

[Bretton Garcia]

6. Marshall McLuhan was the first big scholar here.

This is close to my professional field of study by the way. So it's good to hear your new perspectives here.

I'd say Trump is primarily '"oral." Since he can't spell, etc.. Still a technology.

And anal expulsive? Love of smearing his feces around? Artistic narcicissm? Due to separation from mother: turned over to a nanny. Then sent to military school for bad behavior at 13.

His father's working class construction side would be oral? And programmed for sexism; catcalling construction workers are infamous in NYC.

[guillaumeb]

8. An excellent point about Trump, and his weaknesses.

He cannot read well, nor can he spell oo write without endlessly resorting to clichés and certain phrases that he uses constantly.

[Bretton Garcia]

9. We can all agree that Trump is awful

He likes very simple, repeated, punchy - propagandistic - phrases, insults, labels.

One of the major methods of propagada is repetition. Send out a simple message. And repeat it until everyone has memorized and internalized it.

His insulting names often rhyme or pun too: "shifty" Schiff. etc..

He's a kind of poet laureate of vulgarity. Oral crudity.

Even spoken language is machine-like; a highly organized contrivance, or programming. And Trump knows how to pervert that.

[guillaumeb]

12. "a poet laureate of vulgarity".

Well done.

Low information voters are easily reached with slogans rather than actual plans.

MAGA is meaningless, but the red hat crowd can remember it.

[Act_of_Reparation]

10. It beat out the clay tablet and the vellum codex in the Great Format War of 43 BCE.

[NeoGreen]

11. Yes, and my point being (paraphrasing JFK)...

...

For space science, like nuclear science and all technology, has no conscience of its own. Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man,..."

John F. Kennedy Moon Speech - Rice Stadium
https://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/ricetalk.htm


Technology, in itself, does not corrupt and cannot corrupt, it is what is done with technology by mankind..

Whether one uses technology when inspired by science and our innate drive for exploration:



Or if one uses technology when inspired purely by faith:

[Bretton Garcia]

13. Rep? Sounds interesting