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MineralMan

(147,576 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:22 AM Apr 2019

Hell or God's Eye?



Here's the first image ever of a supermassive black hole, just released. It's at the center of Messier 87 galaxy, the largest galaxy we know of, about 54 million light-years away. The image was put together from multiple radio telescopes on earth in a massive project to use them as one huge telescople.

It's an event that marks an enormous achievement of science and of the scientific method. My thread title is, of course, facetious. It is believed that such black holes are common at the center of many, if not most galaxies, including our own Milky Way galaxy. Now, we have confirmation of the existence of one of them.

Start with this tweet to learn more from the National Science Foundation, one of the sponsors of the research.



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Hell or God's Eye? (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2019 OP
Here's a link to NASA's page on the discovery: MineralMan Apr 2019 #1
I like this image more. Delmette2.0 Apr 2019 #2
Yes. It does do a better job of showing the overview, MineralMan Apr 2019 #3
Interesting! Looks like the results of two galaxies colliding in the past, slowly merging into ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2019 #7
Here's a video that zooms in on this discovery. MineralMan Apr 2019 #4
That is so amazing. Delmette2.0 Apr 2019 #5
A now-banned poster once tried to equate belief in black holes with belief in god. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #6
The idea that all things unproven are equal is dum as day old dogshit Major Nikon Apr 2019 #8
The word "proven" is pretty useless in both areas. MineralMan Apr 2019 #9
... Major Nikon Apr 2019 #10
LOL! MineralMan Apr 2019 #11

Delmette2.0

(4,261 posts)
2. I like this image more.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:41 AM
Apr 2019

The big picture, the surrounding area tends to explain what is going on. I know nothing about astronomy, but I am fascinated by it.

Thanks for posting the picture.

MineralMan

(147,576 posts)
3. Yes. It does do a better job of showing the overview,
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:46 AM
Apr 2019

but the close-up is also important. That such a thing can be resolved at that distance is absolutely remarkable.

We live in a time period when some of the mysteries of the universe are finally being understood. We are very lucky, since humanity lived through most of history having to rely on mythology to explain things. We are entering an age of understanding, based on actual physical evidence. It is truly remarkable and a tribute to the dedication of scientists who continue to explore and share what they find with us all. No myth can do that. Myths are only guesses. Evidence tells the true story.

SWBTATTReg

(24,085 posts)
7. Interesting! Looks like the results of two galaxies colliding in the past, slowly merging into ...
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:52 AM
Apr 2019

one mega galaxy. I read the article, didn't see any speculation on why there were two long trailers of stars on both sides of the main mass of stars (front and back). Thanks for posting. NASA has always got tons of stuff to look at that's really neat.

MineralMan

(147,576 posts)
4. Here's a video that zooms in on this discovery.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 09:49 AM
Apr 2019

It gives you a better idea of the scale of this project. I highly recommend viewing it:


Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
6. A now-banned poster once tried to equate belief in black holes with belief in god.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:12 AM
Apr 2019

Sure, one was predicted to exist given accurate physical models of the universe and the other is a fairy tale, but neither was proven so they were both equal, right?

Guess not.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
8. The idea that all things unproven are equal is dum as day old dogshit
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:24 AM
Apr 2019

It’s only true if reason has no value.

MineralMan

(147,576 posts)
9. The word "proven" is pretty useless in both areas.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:43 AM
Apr 2019

I prefer "supported by evidence" in both cases. Black holes are clearly supported by evidence. Gods are clearly not supported by evidence. Not equal at all. They never were.

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