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Related: About this forumThe Catholic Church is still silent on gender identity issues. It's left trans Catholics in limbo.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/3/11/18253633/catholic-church-trans...Thomas is transgender, which rules him out of consideration for the priesthood. He works for a Catholic employer who does not know his gender identity, so to protect his job, he asked to be identified in this story only as Thomas, the name he chose when he completed the Catholic rite of confirmation, which all Catholics take to mark their commitment to the faith as adults.
Transgender Catholics like Thomas say they feel they are in doctrinal limbo since, although there is extensive teaching on sexuality that applies to lesbian and gay Catholics, there is no universal church teaching on transgender identity. They want to be recognized with clearer, more authoritative guidelines from the pope on issues like medical transition, vocation, and marriage.
...But in conversation, Francis has also appeared to reject the idea that gender can be different from the sex assigned at birth. He has repeatedly said that gender is not a choice. Children are learning that they can choose their own sex. Why is sex, being a woman or a man, a choice and not a fact of nature? he said in a 2017 interview. He has also railed against the biological and psychological manipulation of sexual difference that presents gender as a simple matter of personal choice.
Several US bishops appeared to echo the popes views on gender in December 2017. In an open letter called Created Male and Female, they wrote, The socio-cultural reality of gender cannot be separated from ones sex as male or female. ... The movement today to enforce the false idea that a man can be or become a woman or vice versa is deeply troubling. The letter does not constitute a universal church teaching, since church teaching has different levels of authority.
Transgender Catholics like Thomas say they feel they are in doctrinal limbo since, although there is extensive teaching on sexuality that applies to lesbian and gay Catholics, there is no universal church teaching on transgender identity. They want to be recognized with clearer, more authoritative guidelines from the pope on issues like medical transition, vocation, and marriage.
...But in conversation, Francis has also appeared to reject the idea that gender can be different from the sex assigned at birth. He has repeatedly said that gender is not a choice. Children are learning that they can choose their own sex. Why is sex, being a woman or a man, a choice and not a fact of nature? he said in a 2017 interview. He has also railed against the biological and psychological manipulation of sexual difference that presents gender as a simple matter of personal choice.
Several US bishops appeared to echo the popes views on gender in December 2017. In an open letter called Created Male and Female, they wrote, The socio-cultural reality of gender cannot be separated from ones sex as male or female. ... The movement today to enforce the false idea that a man can be or become a woman or vice versa is deeply troubling. The letter does not constitute a universal church teaching, since church teaching has different levels of authority.
Official church doctrine may be lacking, but it seems pretty clear trans Catholics should know where they stand with their church.
It's a pity, because there are other religions that are more tolerant and accepting.
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The Catholic Church is still silent on gender identity issues. It's left trans Catholics in limbo. (Original Post)
trotsky
Mar 2019
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bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)1. Which ones? I had no idea that transgender accepting religions existed!
MineralMan
(147,591 posts)3. A lot of ELCA Lutheran churches are transgender-friendly.
Not all, but many around the Twin Cities in Minnesota.
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)4. Thanks. How wonderful.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)2. The pope has been very clear on the issue
Comparing it to nuclear weapons. And he's supposed to be a man of science.
edhopper
(34,836 posts)5. When you assume you know what God wants
you lack the ability to reason and grow.