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Eugene

(62,647 posts)
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:43 PM Feb 2019

'It Is Not a Closet. It Is a Cage.' Gay Catholic Priests Speak Out

Source: New York Times

‘It Is Not a Closet. It Is a Cage.’ Gay Catholic Priests Speak Out

The crisis over sexuality in the Catholic Church goes beyond abuse. It goes to the heart of the priesthood, into a closet that is trapping thousands of men.

By Elizabeth Dias Photographs by Gabriella Demczuk
Feb. 17, 2019

MILWAUKEE — Gregory Greiten was 17 years old when the priests organized the game. It was 1982 and he was on a retreat with his classmates from St. Lawrence, a Roman Catholic seminary for teenage boys training to become priests. Leaders asked each boy to rank which he would rather be: burned over 90 percent of his body, paraplegic, or gay.

Each chose to be scorched or paralyzed. Not one uttered the word “gay.” They called the game the Game of Life.

The lesson stuck. Seven years later, he climbed up into his seminary dorm window and dangled one leg over the edge. “I really am gay,” Father Greiten, now a priest near Milwaukee, remembered telling himself for the first time. “It was like a death sentence.”

The closet of the Roman Catholic Church hinges on an impossible contradiction. For years, church leaders have driven gay congregants away in shame and insisted that “homosexual tendencies” are “disordered.” And yet, thousands of the church’s priests are gay.

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Fewer than about 10 priests in the United States have dared to come out publicly. But gay men likely make up at least 30 to 40 percent of the American Catholic clergy, according to dozens of estimates from gay priests themselves and researchers. Some priests say the number is closer to 75 percent. One priest in Wisconsin said he assumed every priest is gay unless he knows for a fact he is not. A priest in Florida put it this way: “A third are gay, a third are straight, and a third don’t know what the hell they are.”

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/us/it-is-not-a-closet-it-is-a-cage-gay-catholic-priests-speak-out.html
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'It Is Not a Closet. It Is a Cage.' Gay Catholic Priests Speak Out (Original Post) Eugene Feb 2019 OP
And to think snowybirdie Feb 2019 #1
Is it any wonder why women are nor ordained? vlyons Feb 2019 #2
The clear implication of Catholic teachings on the subject... trotsky Feb 2019 #3
The priesthood was probably the safest place to be gay until fairly recently marylandblue Feb 2019 #4

snowybirdie

(5,627 posts)
1. And to think
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:48 PM
Feb 2019

they have the audicity to demand married congregants follow their dictates and rules. I've been done with them for years!

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. The clear implication of Catholic teachings on the subject...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:18 AM
Feb 2019

is that as a gay man, you should deny your sexuality and become a priest.

This is barely different than the "pray away the gay" nonsense that we as liberals would otherwise condemn. But the RCC gets a pass on this.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. The priesthood was probably the safest place to be gay until fairly recently
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:06 AM
Feb 2019

And it's probably still the safest place in some countries.

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