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Mariana

(15,096 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:37 PM Jan 2019

Bill would require Indiana public schools to teach creationism

httpd://wsbt.com/news/local/bill-would-require-indiana-public-schools-to-teach-creationism-01-15-2019

It was introduced by Senator Dennis Kruse, who represents the 14th district, which includes part of Fort Wayne.

This is the sixth creationism related bill introduced by Kruse since 2000.

The Supreme Court ruled teaching creationism in public schools unconstitutional in 1987.

Remember, folks, this targeting of public school students for forced religious indoctrination, dishonestly disguised as science, and in direct violation of the law, is no worse than buying an ad on a bus that says, "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."
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Bill would require Indiana public schools to teach creationism (Original Post) Mariana Jan 2019 OP
Yep, nothing to see here. Move along. Major Nikon Jan 2019 #1
Creationism, the belief that the Biblical story is literally correct, guillaumeb Jan 2019 #2
Stay in their lane zipplewrath Jan 2019 #3
I had science classes, and religious classes. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #4
RCC has pretty much "reformed" zipplewrath Jan 2019 #5
I am 67, so my expreience in RCC schools ended in 1974 guillaumeb Jan 2019 #6
At the very least influence zipplewrath Jan 2019 #7
Doesn't that make you a definer of what most Christians in the US should believe? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #9
No, it does not. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #10
I happen to agree with you Major Nikon Jan 2019 #11
Why are you asking the Major to prove something he didn't assert? Mariana Jan 2019 #12
"Doesn't that make you a definer of what most Christians in the US should believe?" guillaumeb Jan 2019 #13
Yeah, but those proselytizing atheists are just as bad, amirite??? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #8

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
2. Creationism, the belief that the Biblical story is literally correct,
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

belongs in a class on religion. And nowhere else. Certainly not in public schools.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
3. Stay in their lane
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:04 PM
Jan 2019

We are in a time and place where politicians constantly speak of "lanes" and "staying in their lanes". I wish the christians would "stay in their lane" and quit screwing around with science.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
4. I had science classes, and religious classes.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:06 PM
Jan 2019

From high school on, and this was in RCC schools, the focus in the science class was on evolution and actual science.

In the religion classes, we talked about religion.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
5. RCC has pretty much "reformed"
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jan 2019

They've pretty much given up their opposition to scientific discovery. As I recall they did get a little touchy about calling Higgs-Boson the "God Particle". Higgs wasn't real fond of it either so they may have a small point.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
6. I am 67, so my expreience in RCC schools ended in 1974
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jan 2019

at the Graduate level.

My view is that many teachers allow their religious beliefs to dictate what they teach. And many school boards are composed of these same people. So we have inadequate or misleading textbooks taught by unqualified people.

zipplewrath

(16,692 posts)
7. At the very least influence
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jan 2019

It's probably what we'd call an unconscious bias, but it can influence everything from what literature they put in their courses to what areas of study and research they recommend.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
10. No, it does not.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jan 2019

But feel free to "prove" how it does, just as you have "proven" your 3 earlier accusations of child rape apologia.

Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
11. I happen to agree with you
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jan 2019

Just seems odd you’d think so while accusing others of being a “definer” in the exact same circumstances.

So thanks for at least admitting your double standard.

Meanwhile...

Mariana

(15,096 posts)
12. Why are you asking the Major to prove something he didn't assert?
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

He didn't accuse you of being a definer of what most Christians in the US should believe. He asked you a question. For future reference, you can usually recognize a question because it has one of these at the end of it: ?

It doesn't promote dialogue, Gil, if you let your imagination run wild making stuff up, and don't respond to what was actually posted.

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
13. "Doesn't that make you a definer of what most Christians in the US should believe?"
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jan 2019

And given that he made 3 separate accusations, talk of promoting dialogue is an interesting approach.

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