The Skeptic's Annotated Bible

[LongtimeAZDem]

I haven't seen this linked here in quite a while, and recent questions have made me realize that some people are unaware of it.

Cross-linked, grouped by subject, and includes the Koran and Book of Mormon:

The Skeptic's Annotated Bible

[trotsky]

1. It's a really, really good resource.

Thanks for posting.

[MineralMan]

2. Great website for those who are looking for factual information

about such things.

Thanks for posting the link!

[Major Nikon]

3. Bible "study" should really be called bible propaganda

Without critical thinking, you can't call anything a "study".

[MineralMan]

13. Bible "study" leads inexorably to

Apologetics - a synonym for half-faced lies.

[Pope George Ringo II]

14. As long as it doesn't lead to reveille.

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That's about the worst thing I can think of coming from that kind of study, which isn't so bad.

Sure. Fix the typo and leave me hanging.

I still say reveille is not as bad as what comes from the other kind of study.

[MineralMan]

34. There's an ASL sign for what comes out of the other kind of study.

I've seen it here a few times.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. Thanks. Appreciated. . . . nt

[guillaumeb]

5. Is the Skeptic unaware of the concept of metaphor?

Apparently so, so the Skeptic did prove something.

[MineralMan]

6. Are you able to recognize metaphor, Guy?

Can you separate actual truth from metaphorical concepts? Are you sure? You won't find the answer at religionnews.com, I can assure you. The answer has to come from within.

[guillaumeb]

7. So you are self-inspired?

You seem certain, but that only means that you have convinced yourself.

Congratulations on that win.

[MineralMan]

8. I require evidence, Guy.

For everything. Faith often leads the faithful down dangerous paths. Truth does not, and truth is determined by evidence.

Have I convinced myself? Of what? I let the evidence convince me. If there is not enough evidence, I look for more.

[guillaumeb]

9. And how do you know that you have all of the evidence?

And how can you determine what evidence is required?

You make a choice in each case.

Is that choice the correct one?

You might believe so.

And cognitive bias might tell you that your decisions are the correct ones.

[MineralMan]

10. You are unqualified to judge my reasoning methods, Guy.

Eminently unqualified. That's an evidence-based judgment. You have provided the evidence.

Bye for now.

[guillaumeb]

11. Just pointing out the possible logical errors that might be there.

But considering how often you give suggestions...………….

Self awareness is critical. And awareness of the limitations of human intelligence.

[MineralMan]

12. ..

[Major Nikon]

17. Yet you suggest you are smarter than the authors of the skeptic bible

Doesn’t really suggest you are aware of your own limitations. Looks more like a proof of the Dunning-Kruger.

[guillaumeb]

18. I suggested nothing of the sort.

I simply pointed out the obvious fallacy.

[Major Nikon]

20. That dog won't hunt

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=303691

[guillaumeb]

22. I said:

Is the Skeptic unaware of the concept of metaphor?

Apparently so, so the Skeptic did prove something.

So your reply is off topic and illustrative of what some feel is dialogue.

[Major Nikon]

24. Thanks for proving your condescension, again

I just posted the link, but I guess you felt everyone else wasn’t smart enough to actually click on it. So kudos for that and don’t let it be said I don’t give credit when due.

[guillaumeb]

26. And thank you for proving that your assertion of what I said

was simply not what I actually said.

[Major Nikon]

30. Get back to me when you figure out the difference between "said" and "suggested"

Or I can just assume your strawman bullshit was intentional.

[Major Nikon]

15. All of the bible is a metaphor?

Assuming the answer is no, and it would be monumentally stupid to suggest otherwise, then how do you know which parts are and aren’t?

Since you won’t ever answer either of those questions, the obvious answer is you don’t know.

Meanwhile over half of US Christians believe in young earth creationism, which sure as hell isnt the least bit metaphorical.

[guillaumeb]

16. The statement stands.

The Skeptic must insist on a strictly literal interpretation of every verse. But abundant evidence exists that this is simply not the case.

Many beginning theology students can attest to this.

[Major Nikon]

19. In typical fashion you fuck up who should have the burden of proof

The truly funny part is when asked about who agrees with your ‘all metaphor’ nonsense claim you allege is mainstream, you come back with examples of people who insist on a literal interpretation.

[guillaumeb]

21. In typical fashion,

you ignore the argument in favor of your favorite points, and ignore the substance of the proofs I have offered. And when I offer citations to back up my contention, even from RCC theologians, you insist on declaring that what they said is not what they really said.

So, speaking of funny, yes, it is.

[Major Nikon]

23. Get back to me when you start answering relevant questions

Is all of the bible “metaphor”?

Answer from you, <crickets>

Meanwhile ‘literally’ nobody, including no-shit rock hard fanatical Christians and least of all anyone here are arguing all of the bible is literal, which is the nonsense you have worked so hard to refute.

So yeah, Gil you really did a great job with your “proof”. You burned that strawman right to the ground, rebuilt it time and time again and burned that bastard down again.

Meanwhile you utterly failed to support your ‘all metaphor’ nonsense no matter how many people you think agree with you, but obviously don’t.

[guillaumeb]

25. When I see a relevant question,

I answer it.

But when I am asked to cite every verse that I take as metaphor, that is not a valid question.

But speaking of non-answers, I have not seen one response of yours in my China series that actually addressed the issues raised in the posts. Instead, you and a few other prolific posters veered into unrelated topics as a way of diverting.

So there is that factor to consider when we speak of dialogue here.

[Major Nikon]

27. Wow, you actually changed my question in order to pretend it's not relevant

As if everyone is too stupid to not notice that sort of blatant fuckery.

[guillaumeb]

28. And you tried to divert again.

Do you think that it appears obvious to others?

But your question was:

Get back to me when you start answering relevant questions

Is all of the bible “metaphor”?

Answer from you, <crickets>

So my answer was relevant.

[Major Nikon]

29. Wow! Now you are pretending you answered it and I'm the one diverting

A two fuckery. Great job, Gil. I really was only expecting one more fuckery and you exceeded expectations. Kudos!

[edhopper]

31. Reading this thread

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I have discovered both Jesus and God are not real, but ony metaphores.

[LongtimeAZDem]

32. Or possibly allegorical. Or just complete nonsense.

[Major Nikon]

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